What happens if you can't give urine sample?

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  1. candidate20144

    candidate20144 New Member

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    I have trouble going to the bathroom in front of people, and am worried about having to give a urine sample with someone watching me take a piss.

    What happens if I can't give a urine sample? Is there some other way I can show that I don't use drugs at all?
     
  2. FlyBoy1993

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    The phenomenon isn't unique to you.

    Just drink plenty of fluids ahead of time, or they will let you drink there until you have to go.
     
  3. a2roxas28

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    From my experience in the army, it's best to learn to overcome the anxiety. There will be plenty of UAs (urine analysis) in your army career. It's not like they are over your shoulder watching you. Trust me, they don't want to watch you just as much as you don't want them to watching. The observers are there to really monitor that no suspicious activity occurs during the collection.
     
  4. majmattmason

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    True story time. Bob, a good friend was a NASA staff photographer at Cape Canaveral during the Mercury and Apollo years. He said they were always having to have various physical tests to enter certain parts of the installation and they were always behind on getting their physicals. So whenever there was a lull, their boss would bark at them to go get a physical.

    One time, Bob decided to play a practical joke on the nurses. He hid a small can of grapefruit juice in his jacket and when the nurse gave him the specimen cup, he filled it with the grapefruit juice. Came out of the bathroom, handed it to the nurse who said, "Bob, that doesn't look so good." He replied, "No problem, I'll just run it through again", grabbed the cup and drank it down. Nurse had conniption fit.
     
  5. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator

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    LMAO! If it's not a true story, it should be! :biggrin:
     
  6. kp2001

    kp2001 USMMA Alumnus

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    Usually what happens during a urinalysis is you will surrender your ID card upon arrival at the testing and you will sit there until you provide a sample. If it takes 4 hours it takes 4 hours but you will provide a sample.

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  7. majmattmason

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    Best part is it IS a true story, Bob Special was the photographer. Bob was quite the character.
     
  8. Stevewar2

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    PT

    In extreme cases, we had to send people to the clinic to draw blood. Only seen this once or twice.
     
  9. NavyHoops

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    You will learn to give them nearly on command you will do them so often. I probably observed nearly 50 of these while at USNA and in the Marines. I probably did at least 50 of them. In the Marine Corps at one point we did urinalysis after every long weekend, TAD trip, leave on top of the random ones and unit wide ones. Yeah it got ridiculous. Actually if you read the observer guidelines that you sign, it is pretty specific about the rules of observation (and they are creepily way too close). We did have Marines try some unique ways of trying to cheat, they always got caught. As mentioned you surrender your ID, will take off your BDU blouse and head to the restroom with your monitor. Provide a sample and then return it and sign paperwork. If you can't, you will stand in the "I can't go corner," guzzle water and wait until you go. We were never allowed to go anywhere else until the sample was provided.
     
  10. JWP

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    Two words and you will these often...drink water!
     
  11. 2012Cadet

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    You will conduct a urinalysis during Beast which they will make you wait as long as it takes. I would recommend you get your "technique" down by then so you don't attract unnecessary attention to yourself for trouble conducting it, but that's just my two cents. However, during the school year they will make you wake up early if you are selected to conduct a random urinalysis. During these, if you are unable to piss I'm pretty sure they will either make you wait until classes start for the day/breakfast formation occurs, or if you still can't by then make you do it later in the day.
     
  12. #armystrong

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    I'm pretty sure every company does it like early in the morning, so most people have to urinate in the morning anyways, so literally no one has a problem.
     
  13. billyb

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    In my experience in the Army, they were directly watching you pee in the cup. It wasn't fun, but you get used to it. I don't think that it ever ended up being a problem for people. If you drink a gallon of water in 10 minutes, you will be begging to go in 30 minutes and you wouldn't care who is watching.
     
  14. Capt MJ

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    You will learn "mind over body" discipline. You will have to get your mind to just say "let it go" while thinking of waterfalls, replacing your mind telling your body to hold it in. And, quite true, you stay in the area drinking water, or there may be an opportunity provided later in the day, but it's a fact of military life, regardless of rank.
     

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