What!? I'm disqualified!?

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  1. alpha2716

    alpha2716 Member

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    I was doing some of my AROTC application today and it disqualified me for two reasons.
    1. ACT Test scores were too low. But how my my scores are: English: 31 Math: 24 Reading: 32 Science: 23 Writing: 17
    That's a superscore of 28!

    2. I do dual enrollment courses and I currently have 16 hours of college credit. It disqualified me saying I couldn't have more than 15. Why not? I want to spend 4 years in college. I'm just trying to get all the stupid intro courses out the way.

    What should I do?
    Thanks for your help.
     
  2. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    How many times have you taken the ACT? Also have you tried taking the SAT? Many do better on one versus the other.
     
  3. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator

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    I'm guessing it's the writing score although the math and science aren't too impressive. As you point out, you, and they, want you there for four years. Are you sure the college you plan to attend will accept all the credits you have? If you're not sure then I would assume they won't accept any and you should indicate accordingly.
     
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  4. AJC

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    not all dual enrollment credits count against the total.
    you are not the first do be in this situation.
    search the forum for dual enrollment posts
     
  5. Jcc123

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    Your science and writing scores are too low. You've still got time to study and retake.
     
  6. Dckc88

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    You only need a 19 on the ACT to be qualified, it doesn't mean that will get someone a scholarship, but a 19 allows you to apply. I will disagree with the previous posters who say it is an individual section, the application is not that sophisticated. And writing doesn't count. My DD stayed disqualified until her transcripts were received, maybe that is the reason? I would email cadet command through your portal, they can see your application, we cannot. Also, the scores have to be uploaded or received to qualify you, not just entered in. Since the application just opened, I am guessing this approval from CC hasn't happened yet. When in doubt, contact Cadet Command, you will probably have to do that a few more times between now and October, just a heads up!
     
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  7. alpha2716

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    You are right I called cc and they said the system is having problems and they're working on fixing it
     
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  8. AROTC-dad

    AROTC-dad Just a dad

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    That said, it is still a good idea to take the ACT (or SAT) again to improve your score.
     
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  9. Pima

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    I don't know about AROTC, but for AFROTC you will be deemed non-competitive if you do not meet the specific component numbers regardless what the composite score. IE. For AFROTC if you have below a 24 on English or a 490 Verbal on the SAT you will be disqualified. Thus, I would say that it is indeed a specific section since they have stated it is too low. Keep taking it or try the SAT if you want to be competitive.
     
  10. Dckc88

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    For Army ROTC it is a 19 to be qualified period, composite score only, 24 to get full points during the interview, and most will estimate 28 to be truly competitive. However, being competiive was not the question, I agree the advice should always be to try to get a higher score if you can, but in this case, the question was not about being competitve, it was about being disqualified, the poster already found out through cadet command that there is an error in the system. My daughter is a scholarship winner with a 26 and one of her sections was below a 24, a 23 I think, but I cannot remember which section. Obviously a 19 will not cut it, but you should be able to submit an application with a 19.
     
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  11. Dckc88

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    Agree 100%, if you can get it higher, do so, always!
     
  12. wisbang35

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    My son got a first round four year AROTC this last fall for Class of 2020. He had a 23 ACT and 16 college credits at the time. (He now has 33!) Definitely try for higher test scores, but don't be discouraged. As for the college credits, when you put in more than 15 on the application, the big scary box comes up and says you are disqualified, but it also says you can finish your application. If you are offered the scholarship, you will need a letter from admissions of your college of choice that you are being accepted as a Freshman Cadet. I'm sure by now, all schools that have had a scholarship winner are familiar with this. Finish your application, don't give up!
     
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  13. Dckc88

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    @wisbang35 , I remember last year when your son received his scholarship with a 23 ACT it gave my daughter and I a lot of hope! At the time she had just re-taken her test and had received a 25 (super score was 26, we were thankful that CC super scores!) She had read on here so many times that she needed to have a 28 or above, which I am sure would of helped, however, she was out of time and had improved her score from a 22 from the previous testing date. Your words of encouragement and reminding all of us that it is a whole person score was perfectly timed and much appreciated! Good luck to your son, next school year is approaching very quickly!
     
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  14. military101

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    that sucks man
     
  15. ENwifeArmyMom

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    I will add that sending the ACT scores through the ACT website did not work in a timely matter. Something about ACT software not being compatible with ARMY software. Eventually, the scores did go through but CC just told her to take a pic of her scores with her phone and attach pic!! She also called CC instead of emailing, always very, very nice and helpful!
     
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    Now that you have the information about what does or doesn't disqualify, you should ask yourself why you have such a low writing score, especially since English and Reading are your best scores. Both of my sons scored like Einstein on Math and like Jethro Bodeen on Verbal. The disconnect was caught early enough that their verbal scores increased markedly. The issue wasn't their literacy but their test taking skills. Would recommend you concentrate on that more than the specific ins and outs of qualifying.

    There are many other factors, unrelated to academics, which could disqualify you for an xROTC scholarship.

    As was said, taking dual enrollment/AP courses doesn't automatically give you college credit. It certainly doesn't "force" credit into your college transcripts.

    What you "want" is unimportant, as is what you think is "stupid". You will find this out first week of ROTC.

    Best of Luck.
     
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    Mind expanding on that statement a bit?
     
  18. kinnem

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    I guarantee you he will not know who Jethro Bodeen is, despite his wild popularity among people of a certain age! :D
     
  19. sheriff3

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    I was always partial to Elle May myself.....
     
  20. ENwifeArmyMom

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    But funny!! Come listen to a story about man named Jed......
     

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