What makes the 1 class year difficult?

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  1. KP2013dramamama

    KP2013dramamama Member

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    This is not a cheeky question! Every year has its challenges. So, can someone speak to the 1/year? Thanks! (DS is a Deckie-Logistics and Intermodal Transportation):thumb:
     
  2. kpmidkp

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    There is a lot going on 1/c year. Senior luau, drinking, 300 nights, drinking, academics, ring dance, officer positions, drinking, capstone, 200 nights, etc. 1/c A splitters don't even find out if they have passed sea projects until almost the end of first trimester, which is extremely stressful. Having said that, if you have made it to 1/c year will minimal problems along the way, he will be fine. It really does take a lot to even get to that point. And then.... Third trimester.... LICENSE PREP!!! Worst ten week period of any Kings Pointer's time there.
     
  3. cmakin

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    I found the first two months at KP as a Plebe far more demanding than license prep. What probably makes license prep a bit of a challenge is that there are those pesky finals to deal with at roughly the same time. . . . .
     
  4. KPEngineer

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    Remembering that you haven't crossed the finish line yet. Just because you think you can see it you're not there yet. One still needs to keep pushing forward as hard as ever.

    I got setback in January of 1/C year and I saw someone get kicked out in April of 1/C year. There definitely can be a lot of stress surrounding License. It is your entire college career summed up in 490 multiple choice questions.
     
  5. cmakin

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    It sure can. I hate to say it, but I went into License feeling pretty confident. It was later proven that the feeling was deserved. That said, I have always tested pretty well. Heck, I even got in based upon my SAT scores. I know I was boderline when it came to my HS grades.
     
  6. KPEngineer

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    I overstudied staying up way too late and became nocturnal. I think I failed four the first time through. Seven of us had to go into the city to take all the sections over again. The second time through, I studied for a couple hours, went to bed early and got a good night sleep ... passed em all with plenty of room to spare.

    When I upgraded last year, after having spent 10+years shoreside before going back to sea, I went in basically cold relying mostly on my KP education. I didn't find the study disks I was using too helpful because it was 3rd-Chief and I'm pretty sure it was mostly just 3d. I had to study electrical and some refrigeration but thats about it. The rest was still in there. I had no trouble with motors and safety. I had to retake all three electrical and one general.
     
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  7. cmakin

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    One thing that I didn't do for license was over study. I spent no "all nighters", either. Of course the ponies came out that week before license. I remember sitting with some of my classmates, reviewing one of them and noticing way too many folks overthinking the questions and basically wasting time. Again, I felt comfortable even after reviewing the available quesitons so I went to bed and got a good rest. I have been ashore too long to think about going back to sea. I do test myself on Seasources just for fun. I don't do too badly for an insurance adjuster. . . .
     
  8. Sunk @ the Docks

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    I think one of the hardest parts (at least at first) is coming back to KP after being away for 5 weeks. It is like being up for your parole board, getting flat our rejected and being sent back into the slammer.
     
  9. KP2013dramamama

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    Luckily our DS is not A Split. coming back from sea as an A split is like having a taste of professional life and being told you are still a student. To prove you are a professional is to always ACT as one, even when a student.
     
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    A little confused. Wouldn't that as be the same for B splitters too? You r a student when you return. Just saying
     
  11. KPaviator

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    Your quote literally makes no sense whatsoever. Sailing as a cadet and having to do sea projects does not make you a professional by any means. And what a shock it is to come back to start your senior year of school to find out you are still a student!

    It makes no difference whether you are A or B split. Oh and btw, license prep is by no means the most stressful portion of KP. Study for an hour or two a night and you will do just fine.
     
  12. KP2013dramamama

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    Sunk at the Dock said..I think one of the hardest parts (at least at first) is coming back to KP after being away for 5 weeks. It is like being up for your parole board, getting flat our rejected and being sent back into the slammer.

    In my posting, I was referring to the first part of his statement, not the second. Sorry I wasn't clear about that.

    From my POV, and it is my own opinion, I meant to say (and not clearly at all, sorry) that entering your 1/c year might be harder if coming right off a boat as an A split. B splitters have been on campus for the 3rd tri of their 2nd class year and have had the chance to adapt back to academics. It's just an opinion.

    When students go to sea, they have a taste of what it is like to be a professional, by doing the duties of a professional. I wasn't saying they were professionals. Many young people attack their lives, internships and schooling with the attitude they must act as a professional to learn like a professional. Hence having the taste of what professional life is like and returning to school, could be a downer.
     
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    Liberty secured?

    Just when DS finally made it to first class and we thought there would be a bit more freedom, I understand all liberty has been secured. Does anyone know why and if this situation is temporary or permanent?
     
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    Sounds like a question for Capt. Kennedy... but looking at the Regimental Calendar on one of the Parent's Club sites (KY, IN) it looks like the securing of Liberty these first couple of weeks were planned for some time so perhaps it's a change in thinking re: getting the Regiment back into the swing of things and limiting distractions from the start of the Academic Year? That is just pure speculation on my part though... will be interesting to see how the Senior Luau goes in a week or so though given some of the vibes we saw at the end of last year...
     
  15. jessibee2013

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    I also have been hearing that there are MANY new rules and restrictions and 1st Class mids are feeling like plebes again. Prison was the word used with a few expletives!
    I think the real issue is 5 sups (or 4 with Kumar 2x) in 3 years and new commandants to go along with them that has 2013 totally frustrated. Its one thing to learn to function in a regimental system but its a bit harder when the system revamps about every 6-9 months.

    I figure 2013 has made it this far and they know how to make the system work for them. They will simply do it again, whining along the way.:shake:
    On a positive note, DS said he has not met the new sup yet but he hears he is a great guy.
     
  16. kpmom2013

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    I guess the already-purchased $160 Yankees-Red Sox tickets will go unused. Even sentenced prisoners get to live in a halfway house their last nine months.
     
  17. julieannreed

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    Skyped with my DS and he said that the commandant has made several changes. All of the classes have had their privileges revised to more restrictions. He says that the class 1's no longer have a lot of privileges that they had in previous years. DS is a class 2 and says that they no longer have weekend overnight and they are to be in by 10:00 on Fridays and 12:00 on Saturdays. No backbacks can be taken off campus (someone came back with a Subway in their backpack which I guess is a no-no). They must now wear their white uniforms to games which is uncomfortable for travel and his white shoes were stolen so his replacements are two sizes too big! But the biggest fear for him is that missing a class (even if you accidentally sleep in) is now a class one. He has never done that, but he says that it seems strange that a drinking offense equals a missed class offense. About the new superintendent...he says he hasn't seen him and hasn't heard anything about him from others other than he wears a suit. He must be a "behind the scenes" type of guy OR is getting his bearings first before making contact with the students.
     
  18. Navy1981

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    As mentioned by Jasperdog, he noticed that a lot of this is on the Regimental Calendar. My midn is a class of 2013 B split and had told me months ago that the Commandant was going to make changes with the start of this school year, rather than making changes with 2012 so close to the finish line. Since the A splitters just came back from sea, they are probably more caught off guard than the B splitters. Before Indoc, she was talking to some classmates at the parent's association picnic and was telling them of all the changes that were coming; one in particular I remember was that Third Class would have to go on liberty in uniform. Of course, no one believed her, but it appears she did have the correct information.
     
  19. tankercaptain

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    After watching this thread for sometime, I thought I would put in my thoughts on the subject.
    Remember this is nothing new, things like this happen all the time. Jay Kennedy in essence is the new commandant and as such wants to make the regiment his own. Also, Monday will be the official first day for James Helis as superintendent. He is working now to make the Academy his and as such trying setting new policy. There have been changes in the administration at Kings Point. The chief of staff is no longer there as well as the assistant superintendent for Facilities and the assistant Superintendent for Strategy & Policy.
    The next six months will be a learning time and probably a difficult time for the midshipman. Things will get worse before they get better, but like everything else there it will only make them stronger.
    If you really want to know what is going on I suggest sending a message to a certain member of this forum who works as one of the department heads at KP. (Some KPers put too much info down on here and give themselves away)
    Finally I will say this, a huge problem is only having one person who holds a merchant marine license and went to a maritime school working in Wiley Hall, ie (Captain (Dr.) Kumar). It's hard to figure out how academics, the regiment, and sea year all work together if you've never gone to sea.
     
  20. KPSQRD

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    Changes

    Back in the day everyone left campus in some form of uniform for liberty... Even 1st classmen could only leave in an academy issued blazer and slacks/skirts. Given budget issues today not likely any mids will be issued any uniforms other than the basics.
     

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