What were your stats when receiving ROTC scholarship

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  1. Tara

    Tara New Member

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    I am a 17 yr old female entering senior year and I recently decided to apply to join ROTC and go to college at the University of Texas at Austin and graduate to be a linguist in the army. I plan on applying for the ROTC scholarship. I understand that this scholarship is competitive. I am going to see a recruiter as soon as I return home from vacation. In the mean time, I am working on improving my chances of receiving the scholarship, which is important to me because otherwise, I will continue ROTC, but will have to go to a different school. Frankly, after hearing of two other boys who were denied and seemed like good candidates, I worry about my chances. I am curious to see the qualifications of some people who received this scholarship in the past few years and hear feedback on what you think my chances are upon reviewing my stats. I'm additionally curious to know if the lack of women in the army changes odds. It would be greatly appreciated.

    Varsity cross country 4 yrs. (captain senior yr.)
    Competed in state XC with team 2yrs possibly a third this fall
    Varsity Track 3 yrs
    Participated in MMA 9 yrs and have won several Kung fu and one jiu jitsu tournament

    Top ten percent of class
    Unweighted GPA 3.8
    SAT 1280 (math and reading. Plan to improve this)
    AP English and world history
    I take concurrent classes at my local college
    NHS
    Key Club
    Debate Club
    Socrates Society
    Robotics Team
    Working at Olive Garden over a year
    100 hrs community service

    Physical Test: 2 mile time=13:30-14:00,1 mile=6-6:30,45 sit ups in 1 min, 25 push ups in 1 min
     
  2. Jcleppe

    Jcleppe Member

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    Welcome.

    You might want to take some time to look back through old threads on the ROTC section. You will find several threads that have cadets listing their stats.

    It is very hard to compare stats with those that received a scholarship. ROTC looks at the whole person Academics/Leadership/Athletics. Some may be strong in one area and weak in others so it's hard to compare. A lot will have to do with the interview as well as your school choices.

    At this point your stats look good, you may want to ask questions regarding how the application process works, what steps come next.

    One question I do have, are you in a leadership position for any of the clubs and organization that you are a member.
     
  3. DanGir

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    My son had similar stats and level of involvement in school that you do. He got his application done early and received a four year scholarship after the first round. Remember that receiving a AROTC scholarship does not necessarily mean you will get admitted to those colleges.
    I will add that my son never talked to a recruiter. Good luck.
     
  4. 2018mom

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    UT Admission

    Tara - University of Texas no longer automatically admits students in the top 10% of their class. You have to be in the top 7%. By all means, apply, but have a back up and alternate school.
     
  5. Pima

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    Something that also needs to be placed into your equation when looking for a chance is the schools you apply to for the ROTC scholarship.

    For example:
    Cadet Smith wins a 4 year to his top choices with out the door stats, but his college choices were MIT, Notre Dame, UVA, NCST and PSU (IS)

    Cadet Jones has strong stats, and does not get one because they have the same choices, and all, but PSU were reaches since even the State Universities were OOS.

    Additionally there is a limited amount of money, it can come down to the issue of supply and demand. Some colleges are more competitive because the units are more popular aka in demand.

    The Army is indeed increasing diversity in their personnel, but I am pretty sure that there are female candidates that got the At this time we are unable....letter. (TWE)

    Right now, except for taking your SAT/ACT over again, your other stats really won't change. I would at this time get your medical paperwork in order. This is where many candidates get tripped up...something they never was an issue because they play sports, lands up being an issue for the military.

    Good luck.
     
  6. Tara

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    Thanks for the help but I am too 7%! I simply put top ten percent because I've seen it on interview sheets as a box to check.
     
  7. Tara

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    My only leadership position is captain of the cross country team. I am honestly not popular enough to win elections for leadership positions. Which is honestly something I feel organizations should look into because I have faced the leadership position problem a few times recently, and to be honest holding a position at my school literally means nothing, excluding a few positions that require an officer to make a speech at graduation senior year.
     
  8. Jcleppe

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    Tara,

    Being Captain of your Cross Country team will be a help to your application.
     
  9. runslikeajohndeere

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    Not sure if you can visit school's ROTC programs, but might help you identify a program that you like and needs you. Finding right fit can be difficult. DS is with a small program but enjoys experiences and cadre.
     
  10. Thompson

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    +1

    As JCleppe said, being an XC captain is good; no reason to discredit it.

    Honestly, I don't think most school clubs really mean much leadership-wise. But if you have other notable things you've done outside of school (ie: perhaps some stuff from community service?), you could pull examples from that as well.

    Best of luck.
     
  11. Sledge

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    Hook 'Em!

    My son, now a Plebe at WP, received a 4 yr ROTC scholarship to UT in Nov 2013. At the time he was boarded - Oct?, I believe he had a 30 on the ACT and a 1380 on the SAT. He had taken the ACT once more in September 2013 but those scores weren't in yet (they improved to 34 and I think that's what got him into USMA).

    He is an Eagle Scout and played multiple sports in HS and was Captain of the Football Team. He went to Boys State.

    He was not a top 7% (missed it by one person/rank out of a class of 125) but he was admitted to the Cockrell School of Engineering.

    My son did a personal interview with the PMS at UT. My son wore a suit. I believe as much as anything above that the PMS interview and score helped him get the scholarship.

    UT has a great Army ROTC program and we all know it's a top public university. Just look at their "Texas Army ROTC" Facebook page for all things they do.

    Good luck.
     
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  12. Tara

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    That's interesting about your son! Thanks for the good luck. Do you know anything about what the interview was like?
     
  13. Sledge

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    Here is a link to what the interviewer (Professor of Military Science) has to fill out and upload to Cadet Command:

    https://www.goarmy.com/content/dam/goarmy/downloaded_assets/pdfs/rotc-overseas-interview-form.pdf

    there you have the categories you will be evaluated on. Dress professionally. I met the current PMS when I took my son to the interview. Really nice guy. Not sure how long he will be in that billet. He was brand new there last fall.

    The way UT does it is that you will call to set up the PMS interview and you will be directed first for a screening through the Recruiting Operations Officer (ROO). After that, you can then schedule an official PMS interview which is required as part of the scholarship process.

    Although I love UT (it is my alma mater), I would encourage you to also look at the TCU ROTC program. If you have a 27 or above on your ACT (or the SAT equivalent), TCU will kick in $10K per year of room and board on top of your ROTC scholarship if you are fortunate to win one. You basically can go to TCU for free if you get an ROTC scholarship there. UT, like most public schools, has no room and board waiver/scholarship for ROTC contractees. You'd have to fund room and board out of your pocket or with other merit scholarship/financial aid.
     
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  14. Coltron

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    Tara, you will no doubt obtain an ROTC scholarship. My best advice to you is to apply now to make the first board, rehearse and ace the interviews, and work on your pushups. Other than that, you will be fine. Select schools you are interested in and that you know you have a good chance of getting into. If you have any other questions, PM me. I secured a scholarship this last cycle through the first board.:thumb:
     
  15. Thompson

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    Here's a few links that should help get you going on what to expect:

    The Interview Feel free to peruse the website as well - there's a plethora of information regarding the AROTC process & cadet life.

    Tips for interviewing with a PMS
    A short, but sweet thread to get the general gist.

    AROTC Interview This Week Another short and sweet thread.

    AROTC/AFROTC Interview tips? A much longer thread, but breaks it down further.

    Best of luck.
     
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    Well, I've been on these Boards for four years, and don't recall ever reading anything about commissioning to be a Linguist... and I'm a trained Linguist and would have remembered that.

    One commissions into one of the 16 basic Branches.... these do not include Public Affairs, Dental, Medical, Legal.

    So, I'm curious how you would achieve your goal of graduating UT and becoming an Army Linguist. Perhaps that is a subsection of Military Intelligence?
     
  17. Tara

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    There's an entire page on the goarmy website about linguist programs. I can't post links yet, but if you search army linguist it comes up. I plan to major in foreign language and there is a demand for linguists so I imagine I will hopefully be enlisted as a linguist if I learn relevant languages.
     
  18. Tara

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    Thanks! I will definitely work on those things. And congratulations on your own scholarship.
     
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    What Dunninla was trying to say is Army linguist is an enlisted position. You can not commission as a 2nd lt and be a linguist. You can be an MI officer and be in charge of linguists, though.
     
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    You might also want to consider looking at what the Army needs in 4 years (regarding languages). Some languages are more preferred over others.
     

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