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LineInTheSand said:
I'm going to assume you will also remember that when attempting to lecture Coast Guard officers on the Coast Guard....right Tom?
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You must mean when I pointed out that the USCGA Corps of Cadets is not the United States Corps of Cadets? You may have taken offense to a matter of semantics, but that was cleared up in subsequent posts as being simply that--a matter of semantics, unrelated to the larger point.

I promise I'll never tell anyone in the Coast Guard what they can do with their careers, even if I visit a CG station. You won't find me in the USCGA forum offering advice, because I'm not in a position to tell those young CG folks about the opportunities available to them.
 
scoutpilot said:
I respect your take on it. However, I don't think that LineInTheSand, despite his many, many valuable posts on here, is qualified to speak in any way on what it takes to become a US Army Special Forces officer. I certainly wouldn't attempt to tell any of our young USCGA members or candidates what it takes to get into any of the Coast Guard's selective programs, or attempt to measure their chances thereof.
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I may have missed where I was talking about getting into SF.....I believe I was talking about West Point cadre (and let's be honest, cadre are cadre), and not giving up on your dreams.

If anything, I was also saying Special Operations are not the be all, end all, despite what many in the Special Ops community think.

Of course, if Tom wants to argue about USASOC recruiting numbers...he can take that up with his 3-star in Ft. Bragg.

I am not the best to speak about "what it takes to become a green beret" because one, I'm not a green beret and two...I don't really care, it's not my path... I also don't know what it takes to become a missileer or sniper or many other things. I do know what it was like to be a cadet, a cadre, and to have dreams (that change).

And finally, yes you have talked about the USCG....in a thread that was eventually locked.
 
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On second thought, I'm bowing out of this juvenile hurt-feelings-fest.

Everyone, feel free to weigh in on the USMA cadets' futures. Actual experience not needed.
 
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LineInTheSand said:
Oh....you're right. They aren't.


http://www.goarmy.com/special_forces/

"If you possess boundless ideas and creativity and you always think of new ways to organize and strategize, the Army wants to talk. Warfare today has new rules and calls for a different type of Soldier's new warrior."

http://www.bragg.army.mil/sorb/

That's a nice website!
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Yeah, they probably spent a couple thousand dollars on it.

Now if you please, let's get back to talking about Army branches for these future cadets.
 
scoutpilot said:
Let me settle this simply:

The average cadre member will be far too busy getting ankle-deep in your fourth point of contact (airborne term, google it) for the continuous, novel, and seemingly endless list of mistakes you'll make from reveille to taps to ever bother asking what you, in your miniscule knowledge of the military, think you might want to do with your career. You're going to be PTed for all the other crap you mess up.

That's if you even make the cut to get accepted as a new cadet.

So. Let's. Find. Another. Subject.
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I think this was the path the thread should have taken in the beginning, good post.

Your next series of posts...not so good. I think LITS made a great post with the turns of events in this thread and it was a valuable addition from a "Cadre" point of view.

Kids will be kids and the point America's Finest made (BTW 2012...he was only trying to offer informed semi-peer advice) was to keep your mouth shut and don't draw unnecessary attention, not 'lie about your goals'. I learned this advice over 30 years ago as a Recruit at USMCRD Parris Island...BTW, we didn't have the benefit of "You Tube" or social forums then...it was "earn while you learn" :biggrin: back then. My good friend TPG can expand on this point when he's back....lol
 
Maximus said:
Your next series of posts...not so good. I think LITS made a great post with the turns of events in this thread and it was a valuable addition from a "Cadre" point of view.
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Perhaps my post was misunderstood, and I should not have quoted his entire response, but merely the portion I found questionable and think would be best left to those with experience in the field to discuss, namely the subject of US Army Special Operations Command (USASOC).

If any of the cadets or prospective cadets on here is truly interested in Special Forces or one of the other excellent communities in USASOC, and would like to know more about officer accessions into those communities, they should by all means feel free to PM me or post in this thread.

Until that time, I'll let those who aren't so "new to the forum" preach on the subject of USMA.
 
I wasn't trying to judge a "whole body of work" here, and I was only making an observation with an opinion....2 cents if you will. Your help here is greatly appreciated, as my own DS (of course) wants Special Forces this week....:shake: He doesn't post here and I think he would have the good sense to not ever be disrespectful or arrogant here, that's for old crotchety enlisted Marines :thumb:
 
Maximus said:
I wasn't trying to judge a "whole body of work" here, and I was only making an observation with an opinion....2 cents if you will. Your help here is greatly appreciated, as my own DS (of course) wants Special Forces this week....:shake: He doesn't post here and I think he would have the good sense to not ever be disrespectful or arrogant here, that's for old crotchety enlisted Marines :thumb:
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Haha. Well you certainly have a right to be crotchety!

If he wants to know more, let me know. The Army has tons to offer, and SF is just one piece of the great big pie.

Best of luck to your DS!
 
scoutpilot said:
Haha. Well you certainly have a right to be crotchety!

If he wants to know more, let me know. The Army has tons to offer, and SF is just one piece of the great big pie.

Best of luck to your DS!
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Thanks Tom, DS is a little more subdued than I and...thank God! :shake:
I might have been able to take 1980 Marine Corps bootcamp but...I doubt I'd make 2010 Beast! :eek: I'm not being sarcastic either....:biggrin:

Good luck to all the fine "New Cadets" here and remember what has been said here..."Less is more!"
 
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