When could I find out?

Oh trust me, I was not disagreeing with anything you said. In fact, I was just replying to original poster, based on the information I have gathered over the past year while my son goes through the process. I agree with your comments entirely. My point was that admissions people from the academies don't necessarily follow a strict order of progress for all candidates. They wait to see which kid gets what nominations so they can shift and move one candidate to this slot, and another to that slot until all the slots are filled. But generally, MOC slots are filled before the nwl spots are given.
 
Wondering the significance for a LOA as not all LOA's receive a MOC and those who never receive a LOA receive MOCs, so what is the point? Why are LOA's even given out if all candidates have to meet the same criteria for an appointment?
 
flying8764 said:
Wondering the significance for a LOA as not all LOA's receive a MOC and those who never receive a LOA receive MOCs, so what is the point? Why are LOA's even given out if all candidates have to meet the same criteria for an appointment?
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Not sure quite I understand your question . . . the LOA informs the MOC that if a nomination is given, the SA plans to offer an appointment, provided you are medically qualified. Not many LOAs are given by an SA. It really means something. The SA has already made a determination they want you which means you have met or exceeded their criteria. I think it would be rare to have an LOA and not receive a MOC nomination.
 
An LOA is more a carrot for highly qualified candidates and candidates they are targeting such as URMs, athletes, etc. With Early Admission, the SAs started the LOA path to try and draw in kids who were being heavily recruited by high level institutions. The LOA is to help encourage a candidate to complete the process and to make them feel wanted in a competitive environment. You are right, they all have to be 3Q regardless, but if a candidate hasn't completed the CFA or physical this could give them the push to really give USNA a shot by completing the package among the many offers they might be receiving. In the end, I tend to agree, they are more a nice to have than a anything.
 
I would would suggest they are more than a 'nice to have'. If you have an LOA then the SA that sent it also informs your nominating sources and it carries weight. (How much is subjective)

It makes no difference if you have an LOA and you either don't complete the application or can't pass the remaining requirements (DoDMERB)

It also makes no difference once you receive the Appointment or arrive for basic.

But it does make an impact on nominating sources and it does take a great deal of stress off the candidate and their parents because they have one less thing to sweat about.

Per an earlier post - LOAs and no nomination are so rare that when they do happen it generates a great deal of discussion on this forum

Our candidate has had an LOA since October and it was brought up in all three of her nomination interviews by the folks conducting the interviews.

In one case, the interview lasted 5 minutes because the guy leading the interview told her the LOA was enough for him

Your mileage may vary - but it seems to be much more than 'a nice to have'
 
Cerberi, I don't disagree on some points and others we vary slightly. Just opinions. It all depends on the nom source. I have sat on Nom Panels. We could of cared less if they had an LOA to be honest. We didn't even look until after we conducted all the interviews to see if what we saw matched up with USNA has seen. Only in 1 case did it not... the kid was brilliant but couldn't of lead a single person out of wet paper bag. Some panels, obviously do care. So much of this can vary from candidate to candidate. LOA + No Nom are rare, but we only hear about what is posted on here. I have seen a handful over the years just from the area I live in. Also, I would argue that it doesn't reduce the stress significantly as a kid competing in a state in VA where you are talking 100s of applicants with spreading the wealth... a Nom is far from guaranteed. I have also seen kids walk into interviews bragging of LOAs and essentially think we would hand them a Nom. We had some nice discussions regarding attitude adjustment. All just opinions and as I said, it really can vary from candidate to candidate.
 
How common is it to receive an LOA after receiving a nomination but before DoDMERB determines status?
 
I have no idea, but as a general rule I would say that LOAs are rare and get more rare the closer to the 'Appointment' process starting to happen.

Did you receive an LOA after getting a nomination dependent on DoDMERB?

Usually the LOA is conditional on passing DoDMERB, getting a nomination or otherwise completing the application process
 
My son did. Yes. I was just curious whether that was typical or not. Doesn't really matter much, I suppose.
 
My impression is DoDMERB is a huge dream killer, so you still need to clear that hurdle, but you should feel good knowing you are in otherwise

Plenty of people still waiting on DoDMERB and don't have an LOA
 
Not typical, but it does happen. At this point most candidates have done their physical and are either waiting for a waiver or gotten the Q.
 
Yeah. We're not waiting for a waiver, but they've asked for more info on a minor ITB issue after which he ran 500-600 miles with no problem and participated at a high level in two seasons of track with no issues. So, we're not too worried. Doctor's report was fairly benign and no treatment/brace/support was prescribed other than a session of PT. I'd rather have it done, though.
 
DD had essentially the same issue and result from a stress fracture. Sent the information to DoDMERB and she was cleared in 2 weeks
 
That's good to hear. We got them the remedial stuff this past weekend so we have at least a week or so more I would guess. Glad it worked out for you. Hoping for same. Does your daughter have LOA?
 
Sail103 said:
I am currently a high school senior. I have an MOC and JROTC nomination to USNA.

I learned that another individual who was nominated through my MOC was offered an appointment to USNA. My MOC did not give out principle nominations. Do I still have a shot at receiving an appointment at USNA, even though another candidate received an appointment from the same MOC?

Also, could I potentially receive an appointment to USNA through my JROTC nomination? Or are JROTC nominations worthless as far as securing an appointment is concerned?
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I know someone that received an appointment weeks ago off of a JROTC Nom, so no, they're far from worthless.
 
Cerberi said:
I would would suggest they are more than a 'nice to have'. If you have an LOA then the SA that sent it also informs your nominating sources and it carries weight.
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Sometimes...maybe even often...but certainly not always by any stretch. Personally, I wish they would do away with them but that's a different conversation.

I can tell you that DS had LOA's to both USNA and WP.....walks into the nom interview and was basically informed that the SA's had their way of looking at candidates and this committee had it's way....then it started "On paper you look impeccable, but now let's see what you really have" and so it went. I'm with Hoops, nice to have but certainly not the end all or be all and often made way to much of.
 
Sydney C. said:
walks into the nom interview and was basically informed that the SA's had their way of looking at candidates and this committee had it's way....then it started "On paper you look impeccable, but now let's see what you really have" and so it went
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Well . . . that is the way it should go . . . the MOC's that have review boards to assist them with the nominations should look at an LOA that way . . . if an LOA was more than that, it would be an appointment.

Since LOAs are rare, and SAs do make good on their "promise" in the LOA, it is significant when an SA provides an LOA. I agree, it would be nice if they would do away with them, but they won't.
 
Sydney C. said:
Sometimes...maybe even often...but certainly not always by any stretch. Personally, I wish they would do away with them but that's a different conversation.

I can tell you that DS had LOA's to both USNA and WP.....walks into the nom interview and was basically informed that the SA's had their way of looking at candidates and this committee had it's way....then it started "On paper you look impeccable, but now let's see what you really have" and so it went. I'm with Hoops, nice to have but certainly not the end all or be all and often made way to much of.
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Did your DS get the nomination(s)?

The goal is the appointment and then to survive 1,462 days from I Day to graduation.

The LOA is not the end all, but in our situation certainly makes life less stressful as we essentially 'skip' the time most people have to sweat between nomination and BFE or TWE.

I am glad my DD has an LOA and her nomination sources have a history of nominating those that have one.

So for our circumstances, having an LOA was much more than a 'nice to have'
 
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