Which Sports actually have "influence/input" on the selection process ?

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  1. murfthesurf

    murfthesurf DS - USNA 2020

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    Which Sports actually have "influence/input" on the selection process in terms of input about an athlete’s desirability to be part of a SA Team?

    Football = Yes?
    Basketball = Yes?

    Baseball = ?
    Lacrosse = ?
    Soccer = ?
    Water Polo = ?
    Wrestling = ?

    Other Sports = ?

    Thanks in advance !
     
  2. USNA Hopeful '20

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    Hockey ?? Lol
     
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  3. parentalunit2

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    That all depends on how much the coach of XXX sport wants your kid. If they are a total stud in their sport, they may be highly desired by the coach. But yes, generally speaking, the revenue-driven sports are the most prized.
     
  4. skismuggs

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    don't discount the small niche sports. they also have some say with admissions.
     
  5. NavyHoops

    NavyHoops Moderator

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    None of us truly know the answer to this. It also all depends how high on the list of recruited athletes you really are. Coaches recruit alot, so its important to understand where you stand within the recruiting chaos for each class. Usually coaches won't divulge this info.
     
  6. murfthesurf

    murfthesurf DS - USNA 2020

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    "Coaches recruit alot,"

    My Question is based only as a general question (not relative to any personal situation) in how the Coach may influence an appointment at a SA.

    So thinking of the answer you just gave Hoops, it appears you are saying that if they do need someone that will help their particular Team, they do have alot of say?

    My 'Captain Obvious' hypothetical : Wrestling Team is lacking depth at the Heavy Weight slot due to graduations of the Big guys, there are thin ranks of Sophmore & Junior Classes on the Team; the Wrestling Coach will get a priority say in getting a Heavy Weight Candidate in order to fill what the Team needs from a potential Plebe Class to maintain Navy's Team.

    Thanks again in advance!
     
  7. NavyHoops

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    They have some influence. How much? No idea. Navy will never release that. Coaches that have been around awhile know what candidates have a shot or not. They know if a candidate is qualified or is a good candidate for NAPS. There are more former athletes in the Brigade than there are active D1 athletes. For instance football probably has 60-80 Plebes right now. Come senior day, probably be 25 of them. We started with 9 basketball recruits. Graduated 3. Do some sports have more "help" to give out? I would certainly think football has "spots" to influence than say the Cross Country team.
     
  8. murfthesurf

    murfthesurf DS - USNA 2020

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    Thanks NavyHoops.

    9 in to 3 graduated ?! Wow!
     
  9. NavyHoops

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    Its not uncommon at all to be totally honest. Many realize that it is more work than they want to put in. Others realize its way too much to put in to ride pine. Others just lose interest or love of the sport. D1 sports are no joke and some just don't want to put up with that level of work or they decide to focus on academics or play a club sport. Heck it was only a handful of years ago that the men's basketball team had no seniors on it. They probably had at least 10 if not more recruits between NAPS and directs.
     
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    murfthesurf DS - USNA 2020

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    :oops: 'Captain Obvious' just had an epiphany; :bang: he has suddenly realized that due to the rules of the Cartel having the initials NCAA, no SA Coach would ever go near this ..... [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]:oops:
     
  11. NavyHoops

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    No they would not. I have never seen a coach on these forums and even if there were, none would answer the question. Regardless of how one gets in, recruit or not, the bottom line is they have to be 3Q and get a Nom. The great debate of USNA finding "noms" goes on every year. The Supt has 50 Noms to give. Even if every one of them went to a recruited athlete (guaranteed they don't), with 30 D1 teams, that is not a lot of Noms to "give."
     
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  12. Vista123

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    Hockey-I asked my hockey mid and he said he thinks it helps (but that is just his opinion). I do know they sent a hockey player to foundation last year. if you have any usna hockey specific questions feel free to PM me.
     
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    My Nephew was USNA and his roommate was Navy Football and then coach at Newport while he waited for assignment. They had a kid which was big time D1 prospect. He said the kid was a bag of rocks but did go on to play D1
     
  14. jersey2016

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    Every sport at USNA recruits, although they do it rather quietly imo. . .each year, as athletes graduate, the coaches will be looking to fill spots for various positions on every team.a boy from our town's high school Class of 2015 was given a letter saying he was in for Crew--in late Sept 2014. This was well before the area Congressman and Senators interviewed for nominations--those deadlines aren't until mid-October--and the interviews are usually in November. If your son/daughter has the stats/times in the events they need athletes for, his or her chances for admission will definitely be enhanced. We were told in a campus visit last year that USNA has 12 admissions spots for Men's as well as Women's Swim teams. 2 male and 2 female spots are allegedly reserved for excellent swimmers who may not have the grades or test scores--they are sent to NAPS for a year. The others are for the top swimmers who have the grades/test scores/total leadership package the academy is looking for. If your child is a rock start athlete and excels in 2 sports, their chances are all the better. . .and if also a Captain of those 2 teams, even better!
     
  15. TSC Navy Nana

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    Just wanted to add some NAPS info. This year, class of 2016 NAPS- potential class of 2020 USNA, included 90 recruited athletes out of a total of 245 M/Cs. From the parent page, it looks like there were several football, wrestlers, track and lacrosse players, and a couple of baseball, and basketball recruits.
     
  16. jackdallen

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    Does anybody know much about crew at USNA? Specifically if both lightweight and heavyweight teams recruit?
     
  17. TSC Navy Nana

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    Yes - a plebe from our area was recruited for lightweight crew this year.
     
  18. NavyHoops

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    Both teams recruit. But there are tons of newbies too. They have first year boats for this reason. Most of the rowers when I were there had never rowed before USNA. A few were recruited but they tend to be the exception not the rule. Also how boats click and work together as they learn the nuances is one of the great mysteries and why coaches get paid the big bucks. Strength, conditioning, technique can all be taught, but mental and how a boat works together is where winners are made.
     
  19. jackdallen

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    The team that I am on is very well known in rowing and varsity got 2nd in nationals last year. I was on novice and we won regional state and southwest championships. I'm on varsity now and I'm wondering if being on a competitive team with good technique and skills will help?

    Thanks.
     
  20. MammaMia

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    2 current plebes from DS's high school were recruited for crew (men's and women's). One was on a national championship-winning team but one only rowed junior and senior year and it was her performance at an erg event (not sure that's the right term, not a crew parent!) that caught the eye of the coaches. They do recruit, and keeping the coaches apprised of athletic accolades and accomplishments is probably helpful. (DS, who is now a plebe, walked on to a varsity team this fall and had done just that with the coach, establishing and maintaining a relationship with occasional updates and continued expressions of interest in playing for Navy.)

    Hope this helps.
     
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