Who gets active duty?

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  1. live4ever

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    My daughter is anxiously awaiting to know if she well get active duty. She is 6th in her class and has been told her chances are high.
    But, the needs of the Army have changed. Anyone knows what the cut off is (in terms of points). Last year, it was 71. (she has 87, so far)
    Very nervous...
     
  2. Jcleppe

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    The OML is expected to come out sometime this week.

    I'm not sure what you mean by 87 points so far? The points have all been given and I don't believe they will be added to.

    I would think your daughter is pretty safe if she has an 87 on for her OMS score. There are a lot of cadets between the score of 71 and 87, they would have to cut a lot of slots before they reached 87.

    Where she is on the battalion rankings have nothing to do with getting active duty other then effecting the overall OMS score which she already has.

    Still curious about the "so far" comment
     
  3. dunninla

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    live4ever -- congrats, she must have done very well at LDAC, plus have a pretty good GPA.
     
  4. live4ever

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    Thanks, i just meant to say that she has 87 points. She is supposed to find out today. The 71 cut off was last year. Apparently it all depends on the needs of the Army. We shall see...
     
  5. live4ever

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    Thanks! Well...she did not do as well as she wanted to... She had to retake night land nav, so she only got an S. Last year she was 2nd in her Battalion. It is this waiting that gets unnerving, but we better get used to it:cool:
     
  6. Pima

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    Congrats to your DD doing so well. As a parent who went through this last spring (AFROTC use to give out careers in JR yr --- now it is Sr yr), I understand how stressful it is to sit there and wait with them. Everytime the phone rang and saw it was DS's number my heart would drop waiting to hear if this was the call and would it be good news or bad news. Luckily it was good.

    That's the thing parents who are just entering if you think that the stress disappears after getting the scholarship it doesn't. It actually amps up because now it is not about how to pay for the school, but their adult career path. You start to realize that the scholarship was the easiest part and long for that back.

    It never ends. DS will be going UPT so for us, he has another board, which is the assignment board, (ENJJPT --- top school) and report date prior to commissioning. Than it will be a yr of training, and another selection board for type of Air Frame (done like an OML). That means before he is operational, it will be from start to finish a 7 yr/ 5 boards roller coaster ride with each one getting more intense.
     
  7. live4ever

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    Thank you, Pima! You are sooo right. I keep saying on the day of the Commissioning ceremony, parents should be the ones getting the bars...or a medal or something. It started with DoDMERB and it just kept getting more "interesting" as the years went by: Airborne school, LDAC...but now, as she puts it: it is beginning to get "real"...

    This forum, however, has be a FANTASTIC source of information and encourgagement. HOOAH, to all who tirelessly answer every single of our dumb questions, whether parents or candidates!
    :band:
     
  8. Pima

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    I forgot about the DodMERB, luckily for our DS he had no issues, FWIW, parents understand there will be another DodMERB prior to commissioning. I don't know what the AROTC is like, but for AFROTC with a rated slot it is a 3 day physical. Again, another time where you sit on pins and needles waiting to hear. DS on that round was sent for more intense test...EEG after not getting good results for the EKG (?). He was in OH, we were here in VA. Luckily it worked out that he was cleared, but it would be a lie to say we weren't scared his dream was going to end before it ever started.

    I agree this site is great. As a retired AF wife, you know people in the real world don't get it when you say something as simple as he only pulled a 3.0 gpa this semester at college. To them that is a bragging moment, to us, we know it is stress on our kids for next semester to pull it up for the OML. Outsiders try to understand, but because it is such a unique path, they truly never get it and this site allows you to be with people who get it, who have walked the path before for you to guide you through it.

    The funniest is always when they go to summer training, and people call asking have you heard from them? When you say no, nor do I expect to until this day, you can hear their minds turning and the typical conversation occurs:

    Why Not?
    Because they took his phone away when he arrived

    Did he do something wrong and that is why they took it?
    No, that's the rules

    What happens if he gets hurt, how will you know?
    UMMM, They will call me!

    But he doesn't have a phone, how do they know who to call?
    UGGGHHHH! Really? He filled out contact forms.

    So for 4 weeks you won't hear from him at all, aren't you worried?
    UGGHHH! Yes, I am worried, but there is nothing I can do, and if this bothers me to insanity, I won't be able to survive when he goes AD.

    I couldn't do that as a parent. I would need to hear from them.
    Good thing your child didn't go military!

    That was the type of conversations I had with people who were not military affiliated. They actually made it more stressful reminding me of everything going on in his life, when for a few short minutes I wasn't thinking about it.

    My Mom is good, she knows not to broach the subject when we are going through boards unless I bring it up. My MIL on the other hand opens with it...as if we are hiding the info and wouldn't tell her as soon as we found out, or forgot that he is/was going through it.:hammer:
     
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    Don't be too surprised if the OML results don't come out today. CC has been late before, the 20th was the date my son was told, he was also told it could be a few days late as well.
     
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    Glad to hear CC is consistent. After seeing how late they can be with AROTC scholarship announcements, not surprised OML release is up in the air. Told DS never believe a posted date - unless its one of their deadlines for him to provide/do something and then he'd better be early!!

    Hope all of you parents and cadets waiting get some AMAZINGLY good news very, very soon. Look forward to reading all about their branching:thumb:
     
  11. live4ever

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    Just heard from DD...results ARE delayed. MS 4 were going to celebrate tonight, not happening...As they say, "hurry up and ...wait....":bang:
     
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    The funniest is always when they go to summer training, and people call asking have you heard from them? When you say no, nor do I expect to until this day, you can hear their minds turning and the typical conversation occurs:

    Why Not?
    Because they took his phone away when he arrived

    Did he do something wrong and that is why they took it?
    No, that's the rules

    What happens if he gets hurt, how will you know?
    UMMM, They will call me!

    But he doesn't have a phone, how do they know who to call?
    UGGGHHHH! Really? He filled out contact forms.

    So for 4 weeks you won't hear from him at all, aren't you worried?
    UGGHHH! Yes, I am worried, but there is nothing I can do, and if this bothers me to insanity, I won't be able to survive when he goes AD.

    I couldn't do that as a parent. I would need to hear from them.
    Good thing your child didn't go military!

    That was the type of conversations I had with people who were not military affiliated. They actually made it more stressful reminding me of everything going on in his life, when for a few short minutes I wasn't thinking about it.


    You are sooo funny! This is so true.
    But i have to be honest, i also get very encouraging comments. However, they really have no clue what is going on. I keep getting this question: so...what will she be doing when she graduates?
    Well...it depends blablabla...
    But anyhow. I just heard from her, and the results have been delayed. Now, the fun has just begun.
    :wink:
     
  13. Pima

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    Don't you love so what will they do? questions.

    I find it funny that they ask this when their own child has yet to start their career path and interviewing.

    My kid is expected to have a "job" by Sept/Oct, SR yr., but your kid won't even start interviewing until spring!

    Part of me feels that it is a jealousy question. That by not having an answer they feel justification for their child.

    I am not trying to slam, I am just saying in this economy parents are parents and when they thought you were insane to support this path out of their own fear or arrogance, are now facing the bottom of the barrel having their own 2nd thoughts about how insane you were. Especially when they may have close to 100K in loans with an economy of 9% unemployment.

    DS has friends in and out of AFROTC. Last spring as a JR, and with his career slot, (March), his non-AFROTC friends started to realize/see the writing on the wall for employment. A few came to him an said, is it too late for me to do ROTC? YES! You can apply OCS. Reality hit them and now they see that him going to PT at 5:30 a.m. where they teased him, has allowed him the ability to enjoy his sr yr knowing his career will start immediately while they live in fear of what will be their own future. Plus, if he doesn't boff it he has job security for yrs and 75% TA for grad school.

    There will be people who get it. They will be the people you will rely on to pick you up.

    I am sorry that the board was delayed. I am not shocked. DS's was delayed for 9 days...it was 9 days of hell! The light at the end of the tunnel is there and all you want is that radio to start playing again and see daylight! It will end, and you need to understand no matter what you do it will not impact anything. Their scores are in, the board has met, their fate has been sealed...for the moment. Whether she gets or doesn't get what she wanted for her career field or AD/IRR doesn't matter. All that matters is she can say I gave it every ounce I had and then some.

    That is something as a parent you need to get use too.
     
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    As Usual...

    Funny thing, I called my son earlier today to see if the results were in, his comment...."Oh you know I forgot they were due out this week". I guess they're keeping them busy.

    I would expect they will hear sometime this week...then again..it is the Army.

    With a score of 87 your daughter should have nothing to worry about as far as Active Duty. Looking at the past 3 years OML she would have finished in at least the top 25%, granted this year could be a bit different but they haven't advised any of the cadets at my son's school that there would be a drastic change with the AD OML this year, maybe a small decrease but nothing huge.

    Good luck to your daughter, what is she hoping to branch.


    PIMA,

    Things have been a bit different at my son's battalion for this MS class. Last year 3 scholarship cadets switched to NG because they had job offers starting after graduation and decided to accept instead of going Active. He has a couple friends still trying to pin something down but for the most part they have been able to find positions. I do have a few coworkers that have kids at school that have asked all the questions to mentioned, I think they were just curious, a few are starting to worry that their kids will be moving home after school with no job to go to as of yet, it is still tough out there for some.
     
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    Well still no word at this end as to the OML. Have heard it will be out by the end of the week, they only have one more day. As my son put it, doesn't really matter, it's the Army, we're used to waiting.
     
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    Well, so much for that estimate.

    Just heard from son that his PMS told them to expect the OML the beginning of next week sometime. Time to just forget about it, I guess it wil come when it comes, as my son said.
     
  18. Pima

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    Unfortunately, that is how you have to take it...being snoopy on the dog house looking at the bowl doesn't fill it any faster and makes it worse because that's all you think about.

    Easy to say, hard to do, but in 8 months when he takes the oath of office, you won't be thinking about this frustration, you will be thinking how fast 22 yrs of their life went.

    Sometimes we just need to remember the big picture.

    Good luck, my best hopes and wishes that all of his dreams come true.
     
  19. live4ever

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    Apparently results are in! DD got active duty! Praying all of you get good news today !!!
     
  20. Pima

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    Congrats!


    XMas tree is lighting up!
     

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