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vamom said:
Christcorp, your explanations are always outstanding. I do have a question: DS's MOC used the primary nominee method. Therefore, there was a primary nom (not DS) and then 9 others. Does the AFA have to take the responsibility to rank those or does the WCS create that ranking for the remaining 9? Just curious as to the process if it is known!

Thank you!
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Depends. Your MOC has 3 options.

1. Principal: All others Ranked
2. Principal: All others competitive (Academy ranks the others)
3. Competitive: (Academy ranks all of them)

The part that "DEPENDS" is on how many slots your MOC might have available. But assuming that they only had 1 slot available, and their Principal nominee received that slot, then the other 9 doesn't matter what they were ranked. They will go into the National Pool and their WCS will automatically rack and stack them along side of all others in the National Pool. (In Flieger's words). Hope that explains it. Mike....
 
CC: I'm just curious, what would happen if the MOC had 2 slots available and he used the competitive method? Would he have 2 slates or would the academy pick 2 appointees from one slate?
 
Christcorp said:
That would be interesting. Mainly to see how accurate the academy really are with their forecast. The average high school GPA for most classes have been around the 3.86 gpa. YET, a large percentage of the class will have a 2.XX at the academy. I personally know some individuals who had 4.0gpa in HS and 2100sat/30+ACT and they had difficulties at the academies. But I also know some who had their 4.0 in HS and have continued on at the academy with 3.93+gpa's and high class rankings. So I'm curious how the academy would forecast an academic composite.
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The academic composite was out of 4000 (i.e. 4000 = predicted 4.0). I've heard they are usually fairly accurate. Mine was in the 3800 range, but I only managed to get a 3.25. So, they are not always accurate, lol.
 
Christcorp said:
Depends. Your MOC has 3 options.

1. Principal: All others Ranked
2. Principal: All others competitive (Academy ranks the others)
3. Competitive: (Academy ranks all of them)

The part that "DEPENDS" is on how many slots your MOC might have available. But assuming that they only had 1 slot available, and their Principal nominee received that slot, then the other 9 doesn't matter what they were ranked. They will go into the National Pool and their WCS will automatically rack and stack them along side of all others in the National Pool. (In Flieger's words). Hope that explains it. Mike....
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Yes, that was very helpful. I read that the "Principal: All others competitive" is used by a very small percentage of the MOC's but it is in fact the method that DS's used. Regardless, I now realize that DS is floating out there in the NP...hope he can swim vs. sink! :) Good luck to all......
 
vamom said:
Yes, that was very helpful. I read that the "Principal: All others competitive" is used by a very small percentage of the MOC's but it is in fact the method that DS's used. Regardless, I now realize that DS is floating out there in the NP...hope he can swim vs. sink! :) Good luck to all......
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I have a bit of an "off-topic" question. Is it known what percentage (on average) of the admitted class comes from a college/university rather than from high school? All of the prin noms for all SA's from our MOC are current college/university freshman participating in ROTC. Is that a "quirk" of our MOC or is that fairly common? Just curious!
 
KO5791 said:
CC: I'm just curious, what would happen if the MOC had 2 slots available and he used the competitive method? Would he have 2 slates or would the academy pick 2 appointees from one slate?
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It depends on if the MOC put out 1 or 2 slates. Technically; from what I remember; the MOC is allowed a slate PER slot. However, that doesn't mean that the MOC has to put out 2 slates. In our state for instance, it's not uncommon to only have about 15-20 individuals TOTAL applying for a service academy. Of them, the MOC doesn't have to give everyone a nomination. Usually our Rep and 2 senators will talk to each other to make sure that each individual gets at least 1 nomination. "Assuming the MOC believes the individual deserves a nomination". So in our case, if there were 2 slots available, our MOC would most likely only submit 1 slate. I can tell you that our last representative used a principal and ranked slate. So in that situation, if she had 2 slots available, the academy would simply take the top 2 names on the slate. "Assuming they were both qualified". So it depends.
 
KO5791 said:
CC: I'm just curious, what would happen if the MOC had 2 slots available and he used the competitive method? Would he have 2 slates or would the academy pick 2 appointees from one slate?
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Our MOC, who uses the competitive method, had two slots open and DS received two noms from him.
 
Wow, 2 noms from the same MOC for the same SA?

Where do you live in Illinois because I am sure every AFA candidate that lives in states where they share the wealth between the 3 MOCs will set up residency in that district.

Of course I would tell not to because chances are that MOC only has 1 slate for next yr.
 
A fairly rural district where they don't always have a full slate for each academy. I think he submitted the same list for each opening at USAFA. OTOH, Senator Durbin, in his letter informing DS of a nom, said he had about 200 apply.
 
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