Why a State Military College?

SamAca10

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A friend of mine and I were talking about service academies. His dad graduated from AFA, and my friend was considering WP. However, he ended up choosing an AROTC scholarship at Rose-Hulman...when we started talking about state military college( you know, VMI, the Citadel, etc.) he brought up a good point: Why would anyone pay money out of their pocket to be yelled at and have restrictions imposed on them? Why not go to a good civilian college with a ROTC scholarship? Like he said, at the service academies they pick up the tab.

Thanks guys
 
I can tell you my son's choice for picking a Senior Military College over the academies and regular ROTC programs. He is going to Texas A&M, which, along with Virginia Tech, have full-time Corps of Cadet programs within a larger civilian university. He has two classmates and good friends who are currently going through plebe summer at the Naval Academy.

He wanted a blend of the two experiences. He wanted a very structured environment during the week, but with more freedom than the academies. Freshmen at the academies basically don't leave their campus but one or two times during their first semester and must do so in uniform. VMI and the Citadel are fairly close to that academy experience as well. At A&M, unless there are scheduled events for the cadets, he can leave campus on weekends... or town for that matter... and be a civilian wearing regular clothes until he reports back.

At the other end, he felt like the regular ROTC programs at civilian colleges were not structured enough in that you only wear a uniform to class once a week and your training takes up your weekends.

I guess it's all a matter of personality and preference as to how immersive into military life you want your ROTC experience to be. Any way you go, you'll still wear the same Second Lieutenant or Ensign bars when you leave. And if you get a 4 year scholarship, you are getting your education almost for free whichever choice you go with.
 
A good many of the students at VMI and such have full ROTC scholarships. Not all but a goo many do.

I can't speak for everyone, but out of everyone at STP that was on my side of barracks on the 3rd stoop at least 2 of the 4 in each room had some sort of ROTC scholarship.
 
There are many reasons to choose a SMC over a Service Academy. Here are just a few:

Freedom to choose. You aren't tied down to one branch of service. You can choose any branch (to include the Coast Guard), change your mind and even elect not to commission at all. I know two cadets in my Class in particular who did all kinds of service jumping: one went Air Force-Army-Marines, and the other went Army-Air Force-Marines. There are also alternative choices to commissioning route. I know several cadets who commissioned through OCS/PLC/OCC instead of the traditional ROTC route.

Corps size. I know everyone in my Class. I know most of the people in the classes right ahead of me ('08) and right behind me ('10). An entering plebe class at the Service Academies is roughly 2/3 the size of the entire VMI Corps of Cadets. I love the close knit relationship I have with my Brother Rats.

State pride. Military schools are a Southern tradition. There's just something cool about being tied to a state (or, in my case, a Commonwealth) instead of the federal government. It sounds nuts to northerners, but if you visit, you'll understand. My mom couldn't begin to understand it 'til we went for a drive on the Blue Ridge Parkway during Parents Weekend of my Third Class year.

Again, those are just a handful of reasons. More to come.

Jackie M. Briski
VMI Class of 2009
 
Here's repost from the thread on why anyone would want to go to a SMC if they didn't want to commission (http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/showthread.php?p=58245&highlight=Jackie#post58245). There are a few other ideas explored in that thread, too.

Mandatory commissioning at VMI and The Citadel came to an end in the early 90s. Both schools saw a surprising drop in commission rates once it was no longer a requirement. I'm not sure about The Citadel, but 56% of the VMI Class of 2009 received their commissions (both active duty and Guard/Reserves) on May 15th. I know several more who will be commissioned within a year through OCS, OCC and other post-graduation commissioning programs. GEN Peay's goal is to reach a 70% commission rate by 2039, and we're making steady progress toward that goal.

Every cadet has a different reason for going to an SMC. Here are just a few:

Tradition. I know a guy who's a fifth generation VMI man. Was he really going to drop the family tradition, the rite of passage that tied the men in his family together?

Structure. I know a few biology majors who are interested in going on to med school. They knew that if they went to a normal school, they'd get too caught up in partying and wouldn't have the grades they needed to get in to a good school. Same goes for a few who want to go to law school.

Adventure. Because some of us just can't imagine ourselves having gone to a "normal" school. :rolleyes: :smile:

Sense of pride. There's just something cool about being from a military school. People expect you to have a higher level of mental toughness... and after being pushed to the limits, you might just meet their expectations.

Cool experiences. I completed a 5K walk for charity on Memorial Day, and I just kept thinking about how easy it was after having done two 22 mi force marches in BDUs/ACUs. And that was a normal part of my education... it was just kind of expected. :smile:

Learning to fail. It sounds strange, but this was a major selling point for me. There aren't many places left in the US that teach people how to pick themselves up and keep pressing on in the face of failure. It will be one of the most difficult (and humbling) things you have ever done, but it will be worth it to gain this skill.

Southern Tradition. Education within the constraints of a military environment is a long-standing Southern tradition. Many northerners don't understand this. It's considered honorable, so many young men from old families in the South (especially the Deep South) start their careers at military schools. Sometimes well before they hit college.

Resume builder. Saying you went to a military school is a good attention-getter. Depending on the industry and the particular job, many employers don't care so much what your degree is in as they do that you have one. To set a goal and work toward it over several years and finally accomplish it says a lot. To do that in the context of a military education indicates an even higher level of strength in goal setting, discipline, mental fortitude and dedication.

The Alumni Network. Bruno already mentioned this, but it bears repeating. Ivy leagues have alumni networks that are pretty strong, but there is nothing like meeting another VMI Alum and swapping stories. It's also great for employment opportunities. I can't tell you how many business cards I've picked up from Alum over the years -- and that's only four years, by the way. :smile: Perhaps the greatest benefit of the network, though, is the opportunity to find a mentor. Never underestimate the value of a mentor, whether it be in your personal life, the military, the business world, or in specific areas such as leadership. The camaraderie between Alumni of an SMC is second to none, because we all know what it took to make it through.

Sense of accomplishment. I cried at my graduation. My diploma is so much more than a piece of paper. It took so much blood, sweat and tears to achieve that thing. I wear my class ring every day. Yes, people think it looks goofy because it's so big, but I just smile quietly, because they have no idea what it took to earn that ring. I don't tell them that, of course... I live to bust stereotypes, including that of ring knocker. :smile:

FYI, Norwich doesn't have mandatory commissioning, either. Going to an SMC is one of the few ways you can get four years of ROTC training without incurring a service obligation. All of the SMCs have different strengths and weaknesses with different systems and different goals, but the end product is roughly the same.

The military school atmosphere is not for everyone. But for those who stick it out (to be clear, there is literally no way you'll make it through without your classmates), the intangibles are worth it. Your education will encompass so much more than what you can learn in a classroom. The system is designed to take high school students and turn them into the kind of men and women our society needs. It's painful, but it's worth it, whether you go into the military or the civilian world.

Hope this helps.

Good luck,

Jackie M. Briski
VMI Class of 2009
First Class Private (Ret.)
 
good question

The original question made me giggle. I have had the same thought many a time over the last few years as I ponder my life choices.:rolleyes: I graduated in 99, and there were times when I was curious as to why on Earth my mom and dad were paying for me to undergo such torture. Yes- I often wondered it while I was marching 2nd relief sentinel in January during a slew of freezing rain, or while I was on confinement during Parents' Weekend Second Class year because my moron roommate couldn't be bothered to pick up his Army gear off of the floor.

I'l be honest. I'm not one of those guys who will go to any lengths to tell you that VMI is the best place on Earth, and is a better choice than a SA. Yes it's full of history, Stonewall Jackson taught there, blah, blah, blah....I'm not that guy. I fully admit that I went to VMI because I did not get an appointment to my SA of choice. That said, I wanted a commission, and wanted to belong to a Corps (on a full-time basis). As a 17 year old, this sounded like a good idea. That said, I would not trade my VMI experience for the world. The academics were great, and the ROTC/Corps lifestyle really did prepare me for active duty. VMI has a great reputation in the active duty military, and in my four years in the USAF, most senior officers I ran into (Squadron, Group, and Wing level) had a great deal of respect for the type of junior officer produced by the "I." Also, I am a practicing attorney now, and I found the academics at VMI to be a strong preparation for the type of reasoning and intensive writing required in law school.

Sort answer-I'm glad mom and dad paid for VMI, as while it wasn't my first choice, it WAS the most defining time of my life.

Rah Va Mil '99 '99 '99!!!
 
Jackie's post is spot-on!

Actually its about the best I've heard and it sums it up so well in such a short missive!!!:thumb:

Steve
USAFA ALO
USAFA '83
 
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