Will leadership in Civil Air Patrol be enough?

To our OP, if your child wants to be in a club but most school clubs conflict with his sports schedules, surely, somewhere nearby, there are innumerable clubs your child can join (numismatics, political, social welfare, religious, art, local orchestra, literacy program, etc.). If he can't find one that fits his schedule in which he is interested, how about this: he can start one himself! Now, leadership is a giant check-off on your list.

I might suggest too that son forgo the extra gym time you mentioned in favor of a club or PT job. Sounds like he gets plenty of running around exercise.

Gyms's not my choice and I've been told it's not negotiable :) (kidding of course, but him going there is huge to him)

I've made several suggestions, including dropping club soccer. It's sucking up a huge amount of his time, and our money. And in the end, it's not going to lead anywhere. After discussing the topic with several coaches, his chances at playing for the academy are slim to none. He's a pretty good player, like I said, he's playing Varsity as a sophomore in the fall, but playing D1 requires him being an outstanding player. Almost every player on the Falcons roster came from an academy team (not to be confused with the Academy), which is a couple levels above where he's at now.

http://academy.demosphere.com/

That being said, being selected captain of that team is a bonus and the fact that he enjoys playing it definitely counts for something. I don't want to make his high school years anymore stressful than I'm sure they already have become by taking something away that he enjoys. If he enjoys playing club soccer, and is handling everything else, well I guess that's good enough.
 
The question has been indeed answer, but my point was/is, your child is a freshman. You don't know if he will become NHS president as a senior. He may become the team soccer captain.

Give it time. Don't wish his/your life away. He will be a junior soon enough. Just sit back, and enjoy the ride right now. Nothing in your post screams GET ON TOP of XYZ.

As a military member I am sure you know the dues your family will pay.
 
To our OP, if your child wants to be in a club but most school clubs conflict with his sports schedules, surely, somewhere nearby, there are innumerable clubs your child can join (numismatics, political, social welfare, religious, art, local orchestra, literacy program, etc.). If he can't find one that fits his schedule in which he is interested, how about this: he can start one himself! Now, leadership is a giant check-off on your list.

I might suggest too that son forgo the extra gym time you mentioned in favor of a club or PT job. Sounds like he gets plenty of running around exercise.

Gyms's not my choice and I've been told it's not negotiable :) (kidding of course, but him going there is huge to him)

I've made several suggestions, including dropping club soccer. It's sucking up a huge amount of his time, and our money. And in the end, it's not going to lead anywhere. After discussing the topic with several coaches, his chances at playing for the academy are slim to none. He's a pretty good player, like I said, he's playing Varsity as a sophomore in the fall, but playing D1 requires him being an outstanding player. Almost every player on the Falcons roster came from an academy team (not to be confused with the Academy), which is a couple levels above where he's at now.

http://academy.demosphere.com/

That being said, being selected captain of that team is a bonus and the fact that he enjoys playing it definitely counts for something. I don't want to make his high school years anymore stressful than I'm sure they already have become by taking something away that he enjoys. If he enjoys playing club soccer, and is handling everything else, well I guess that's good enough.

Than trust him. Let him choose. If he wants club soccer where he is already a Captain, let him be. If he wants CAP, than let him be.

Stop fretting. Stop caring about any opinion that you read on any forum. You know him. Believe!

Seriously, not one poster here sits on the admission board. If they did,they would be silent like a grave regarding advice.

Trust yourself, you have an amazing child right now.
 
Pima is right that your son looks good so far.

However, I stand by my assertion that school clubs are not impossible for your son. My son was a three-sport athlete in high school: football, powerlifting, and track. And...he played club soccer, too. He would have played soccer in HS but he loved football more and it's the same season. So, saying I've not been in your shoes is incorrect. Son made things work with clubs by making arrangements with coaches and faculty. He was president of Spanish Club and Spanish Honor Society. He got the Spanish faculty advisor to move meetings to Mondays after school because the first half of football practice on Monday was weight training and the coach let him out of it because he knew that son did weight training on his own all the time. In fact, as football captain, son organized and led weight training during the summers and that helped convince the coach to be flexible with practice on two Mondays a month. He made similar arrangements with the other coaches.

Son was incredibly organized and did what he enjoyed and made it work. Your son can do it as well.

Stealth_81
 
My kids, too, were machines because they wanted it all, and made the most of every second. To this day, their time management skills are impressive.

Your son is 15.... FIFTEEN. Let him pursue his own interests - you can facilitate that, but he has to acquire the skills to go after them on his own. By 17, he may have zero interest in soccer, in USAFA, in anything you as a parent would applaud. Kids are like that sometimes, especially if mom and dad try too hard to direct them.

PIMA is right, and so is Stealth.
 
So true what Pima and fencermother and stealth are saying. The only thing I pushed for my kids growing up was that their #1 job growing up, outside of being good and respectful kids, was that they got the best grades possible so they could have "choices" when the time came for after high school graduation.

I was a little different than some parents. They could have summer jobs if they wanted, but during the school year, they already had a job. Get the best grades they could. I also encouraged them to be involved in sports and other activities. Both my daughter and son were involved in multiple sports, both were involved in different types of music classes/clubs. By the time they got to 9th grade, they were also involved in the IB program which required many volunteer hours. As long as they were striving for the best grades they could get, they were doing their job and could be involved in any other activities they wanted to.

We never even mention college, as in which ones, until mid way through their junior year. College in general was a given that they would go to one. Which one? That subject was taboo until junior year. Why? Because as I've said in the past, teenagers change their mind at least 5 times a day. Over 1500 times a year. I didn't want them to think that their future had already been decided for them. Come their junior year, we looked at their accomplishments, their status, and looked at their options.

My daughter, being older, remembered the moving around as a military brat. She didn't want to do that any more. She, not us, decided that she only wanted to attend our state college. She could live on campus and be with friends she made in high school and make some new ones too. She had no desire to go to any other school. She made up her own kind. Good for her. She's now 28 years old, engaged, works 1 full time job, teaches dance at a studio, and also has her on business on the side. She makes a lot of money and is debt free. Didn't need student loans and makes a great income. All her choice. I'm so proud of her.

My son, 3 years younger, didn't mind the thought of moving away. Applied to 4 schools seriously, also got accepted to two more. The 4 he seriously applied to all offered full ride scholarships. Other than keeping him focused on his "job" in high school, the rest of his decisions were all his. He played 3 sports per year. Was captain of 2 of those teams. Was involved in a number of clubs in school. Had 200-300 hours of volunteer time via the IB program. Graduated with. 4.0 gpa with an IB diploma and class rank of #1. And received scholarships from 4 universities in academics with also the option to play sports. He chose the Air Force academy. He also got to play football for Air Force.

The point is, all of the decisions he made, were his. If he wanted to go to one of the other 3 universities on scholarship, I would have supported that decision exactly the same as the one he made to accept the academy appointment. And because it was his choice 100%, he was able to give it everything he had. He graduated the academy 1st in his department, #7 overall academically in his academy class, and was accepted to grad school and will complete his PhD 2 days after his 25th birthday.

I only bring this up to stress the point, that I truly believe that neither of my kids would have achieved what they had, or succeeded to such a level, if the choices that took them on their paths weren't 100% theirs. I believe that if I would have steered them towards what "I thought" was best for them, they would have done "OK" but not to the level they acquired.

So, whether it's the clubs they join, or the sports they play, or other extra curricular activities they engage in..... Make sure that it's 100% their choice. It's their life and their future. Not yours. As much as you believe you're helping them by directing them towards something, you're not. Make sure that their #1 priority is their academics. That's their job. After that, just make sure they have the opportunity to be involved in other activities. What those activities are, is not your decision or even your concern. Let them decide their own path. And don't talk to them about specific colleges until they reach their junior year.if they do well academically, and are involved in at least 1 sport, and involved in other activities, then they will be fine if they decide they want to apply to the academy. Even if your 14-15 year old wants to talk about going to the academy, just talk to them about college in general terms. They will change their mind more than 3,000 times in the next 2-3 years, and they have to know that their decisions are "THEIRS". Then, they'll have the highest incentive and motivation to be the best they can be.

Sorry for the book. I'm just very passionate about making sure kids have options, choices, and that the final decisions are 100% theirs. I've seen too many kids at the academy and even in particular universities who really didn't want to be there. They thought they did, but eventually they realize that they were lead in that direction and it wasn't truly their choice.
 
Honestly, I haven't pushed him in anyway. The decision to peruse the USAFA was his. Outside of Civil Air Patrol I haven't suggested much of anything, he's done this all on his own. His decision was to pursue the Academy at an unusually young age, the only thing I told him was that he needed leadership experience and volunteer hours, and even that was more to get into NHS which apparently looks good on any college application. How he did that was up to him. He said he couldn't join any clubs because of sports. That's when the CAP thing came up because it hit both the leadership and volunteering. There wasn't any pushing him to do it, it was a "hey what do you think about this..." Followed by "go check it out and see if it's a good fit". After that it was his decision.

I think it was a good fit for him because there it hits a lot of areas he enjoys, academics, physical fitness, and the big one for him, a goal (the Spaatz award). Again though that being said it was and still is his decision.

I've repeatedly explained to him that while I'm proud of his decision to pursue the academy, there's no expectation that he attends and that I want him to be happy with wherever he decides to go.
 
X-ray. Just am FYI. Those who know me well, know that the majority of my posts are never direct replies to an individual or the topic specific to an individual poster. I belong to many forums on many topics, and know that there many more readers/lurkers than there are posters. The majority of my replies are to "ALL" readers. Not just to an individual poster. In no way was I implying that you were pushing or leading your son in one direction or another. I don't know you or your son personally. Please don't think I was insinuating anything. I wasn't. I write sort of in the 3rd person. Basically the 3rd person reader.
 
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