Women's chances higher?

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  1. vtusnahopeful

    vtusnahopeful Member

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    It seems as though women have a significantly better chance of getting into West Point than men. One place said that out of the 330ish women who were qualified, 180ish got appointments. That is over 50% of women who were qualified. Does that mean that if women are qualified, had nominations, and were good candidates, they have a very good chance to get in? It seems like men have a harder time...


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  2. tug_boat

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    Yup...

    Yup, their chances are better. And this year for the Class of 2018 the chances will be even better. The percentage will jump to 16-19 percent more females. It less competitive for women. You have the best chance to get in if you're a minority female.

    However, the military, physical and academics standards will not waver, you must pass the AFPT even though its a different standard compared to men.

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    High percentage of acceptance, a greater number of male appointments (5.5:1) yet women chances for admission are better????

    The Class of 2018 is projected to increase the number of females from 16-20%, which based on 181 from the prior year adds approx. 60 more spots for women.

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    Is the number of women applying expected to rise or stay about tr same?


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    There is, as my DS's FFR said, "a big push" to get more women into West Point. In media stories, and in the most recent Board of Visitors report, West Point has indicated that it expects the number/percentage of women to rise. Now, is that because more women are naturally seeking a career in the Army? Or are they being sought out and given preferential treatment in the admissions process? Or a little of both? West Point openly admits that it has a "floor," or desired percentage of women that it seeks to admit. That floor has increased significantly for the Class of 2018.

    In the eyes of some, notably Senator Kristen Gillibrand, who is an influential member of the BOV, the Rugby "scandal" last year indicated (or "confirmed") that there is an "institutional misogyny" at WP that needs to be corrected by the admission of more women into the Corps.

    I think there will be approximately 240-250 (20%) women in the Class of 2018.
     
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    What I would like to see is the average admissions stats for boys vs. girls. What are the average SAT/ACT scores, GPAs, Class Rank, etc. by gender? For all we know, women may have higher stats and stronger files, and if the academies didn't cap how many women could be in a class in the past, there would have been more women selected. Has anybody seen these stats?
     
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    That information will never be posted publicly. Same for any special category candidate. All it would do is invite someone to file a lawsuit alleging xxxxxx discrimination.

    There has not been, at least in recent years, a cap on the number of women admitted. If you are referring to the class composition goals, that is what they are...goals that are meant to serve as a benchmark to achieve, not to limit. They don't automatically admit more "less qualified" or unqualified individuals to meet the goal either. If more than X% of women won their appointment, they would be offered, AND WP would put out a press release saying how they exceeded a key class composition goal.

    Plus when you consider all the different categories candidates fall into that have different competitive levels, you won't get an accurate picture. Would you expect the average admitted Soldier to have the same high SAT scores as the average candidate gaining admission through a congressional nomination? How about the military dependent that has been to 4 different high schools - will they have the same leadership potential as the average candidate - having the opportunity and ability to be football team captain or class president that often are a mix of popularity and time? How about that USMAPS kid who was academically DQ'd their first go round - their high school rank isn't getting any higher, but they are going to gain admissions if they successfully complete the program.
     
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    You can read the detailed numbers for those who are fact oriented. The BOV report on page 18 shows that of the fully qualified, males have lessor odds of an appointment, but females accept at a lower rate. The matriculation versus appointed rate may mislead people who are interested more in the Appointment rate from the qualified pools. Buddy -;

    http://www.usma.edu/bov/SiteAssets/Reports/2012 BoV Annual Report-Final Complete Report.pdf
     

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