Word of Warning

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  1. sg1fan93

    sg1fan93 Member

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    This is a warning for anyone in AROTC who is not currently contracted. At my battalion they have started to drop people from the program if they were in their second year and are not contracted. Also, they have announced that only 20 slots will be open next year for people to contract. The people with the best PT scores and grades will get the slots. So what I'm trying to say is work hard!! The Army is downsizing, they don't NEED you, they just want the best.
     
  2. Jcleppe

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    This goes right along with some of the issues that have come up at my son's battalion. They have not dropped anyone yet but have told a couple MS3's that they will have to wait to commission past their graduation date due to the fact there will be above their Mission Set. The class of 2013 was very large due to some recruiting practices, it was the last year they selected scholarships form each battalion.
     
  3. kinnem

    kinnem Moderator

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    OK. Now I'm worried about NROTC MO. :eek: But what else is new?
     
  4. MNDad2015

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    sg1fan93,

    Why MSII's? Unless you're say a 3Y AD or SMP, you can't contract in your sophomore year.
     
  5. Pima

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    MNDAD,

    The military is infamous for changing rules mid-stream, and since none of these cadets are contracted, they have no binding rules with AROTC to stop them from changing the procedure. As it is always stated, you serve at the luxury of the military.

    Hence, it appears at his BN, they are already acknowledging what will occur next yr.
     
  6. Jcc123

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    I am so very, very glad my son secured a 4-yr campus-based scholarship this fall as an MSI and has already contracted. It really feels like he snuck in under the wire!

    There were only 3 national scholarship MSIs in his battalion to begin with, and to date none (besides him) have passed their PT tests. I hope they understand the gravity of their situation.
     
  7. Pima

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    The one thing I would also stress to candidates of 16, that PFA is not just there as a factor in your WCS for grins and giggles. It will be a part of your life to contract.

    Make sure you do the proper form and time intervals because next yr they will nail you for the form, and that is one reason why some do not pass. The second reason, is that after taking the PFA, it is out of sight and out of mind for the candidate. They stop training during the summer, since afterall, it is their last "fun" summer. That is the absolute worse thing you can do, keep working out from here until you show up at ROTC.

    Some also fail because they attend a college at a high altitude or different weather (attending UMiss and you are from Maine) and their body needs time to adjust to the level/weather. This is also why it is important to practice it in all types of weather...5 o'clock and 100 degrees with 95% humidity, or 6 a.m in 20 degrees...both of those examples will burn your lungs running if all you have ever practiced it in was 80 degrees and no humidity.

    The true die hards also do run in the rain, reason why your run time will slow down due to traction on wet surfaces, plus you are concentrating on wiping rain off your face and not necessarily your pace.
     
  8. Ohio2015Parent

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    Will let DS know about OP BN announcing this "change" and see what the situation is with his school. I'm not pleased to hear this, but also not surprised. DS and I spoke of this when he decided to join the NG and go SMP instead of simply taking MSI courses and waiting it out. It was a calulated risk, having to potentially miss a grading period to complete BCT vs the door to contracting closing as the military changes manpower needs. As OP mentioned, they only want the best so work hard and then some and hope the path stays clear for those who are willing to serve at luxury of the Army. Very pleased right now that DS has a strong position within his school(current 4.0 GPA and APFT 275) so will continue to encourage him to stay focused and get informed about his own school.
     
  9. Jcleppe

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    Since SMP's contract the beginning of their sophomore year they would not be effected like the cadets that are non scholarship and non SMP. These cadets are taking the first 2 years of the Basic Course with the goal of being contracted the beginning of their junior year. I would imagine that these are the cadets the battalion will be looking at during their sophomore years, if their GPA's and APFT scores are not high enough and the battalion is over their Mission Set for that class then I figure these are the cadets they will be looking to cut from the program.

    Sounds like your son is doing quite well, that's great.
     
  10. clarksonarmy

    clarksonarmy Recruiting Operations Officer at Clarkson Army

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    Missions are being reduced...this is not really a surprise. What you are seeing is that we no longer have to drag as many cadets as possible across the finish line. The military can be a little more selective as we draw down. Take care of business, do what's right, and don't take anything for granted and you won't have to worry.
     
  11. Pima

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    Listen to Clarkson.

    The beauty of Clarkson being a poster here is he is an AD member, on top of being an ROTC instructor.

    He has the ability to see how the Army is re-shaping now and how that will impact the cadets.
     

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