Yet another chances

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  1. njdos92

    njdos92 Buckeye Battalion Cadet

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    Hey all, I had recently taken my CFA, handed in final transcripts, completed all forms, and have all SOE recs in. All I am doing is working on my essays. I know that there are a lot of people asking how they compare to other candidates so I figured one more can't hurt. I am hoping that I stand a chance at getting a LOA but I am trying not to expect anything. As far as extra curicular activities go, I was a drum major of my high school marching band, in jazz band, in the pit orchestra, on the golf team, on the indoor track team, and in NHS. I am going to college at Ohio State where I am in Army ROTC, the John Glenn Learning Community (a group that accepts members that have an interest in public affairs and judge people on academics and extra curriculars), I will be doing Intramural Soccer, joining the Buckeye Barbecue Qlub (yes I know that is a Q), and I will be trying out for the Ranger Challege Team. In high school I graduated with a GPA of 3.8244 and had the SAT score of 690 on math, 590 on writing, and 580 on critical reading totaling to 1860. These are my CFA results.

    Basketball throw - 1st attempt 72 feet, 2nd attempt 70 feet, 3rd attempt 73 feet
    Pull-ups - 14 reps
    Shuttle Run - 8.7 seconds
    Sit-ups - 96 reps
    Push-ups - 75 reps
    1 mile run - 6:20

    Last year I did not receive a nomination even though I was told by my district coordinator that if I got a nomination I would probably get in. Not getting a nomination was tough but I found out that all ten people that my congressman nominated were admitted. My main concern is the competition that I face in my district there for I feel a LOA is important to getting the nomination. Any insight on what to do in college besides keep good grades would be much appreciated and if you could let me know what you think my chances of getting a nomination, appointment, and LOA are it would be greatly appreciated. I did apply for the nomination for ROTC cadets, does anyone know how many nominations are given to Army ROTC cadets from the Secretary of the Army? Thank you and I know that this is probably the thousandth post to ask about chances.
     
  2. mom3boys

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    Do they want current college students re-taking the SAT? If so, you should do that (or the ACT). Your reading score is too low. I am frankly surprised you got into Ohio State w/ that score.
     
  3. sprtzm

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    Admissions Data (2009):

    * Percent of Applicants Admitted: 65%
    * Test Scores -- 25th / 75th Percentile
    o SAT Critical Reading: 540 / 650
    o SAT Math: 580 / 690
    o SAT Writing: 540 / 640

    from the ohio state web site..................
     
  4. mom3boys

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    Same year data for West Point indicates take the test again! The MALO told my son to take it again when he had a 1220 (math/verbal); said he'd never get in w/ scores that low, so he re-took it.

    College Board Scholastic Assessment Test (SAT) Scores*
    Range Verbal Math
    700-800 19% 20%
    600-699 44% 57%
    500-599 33% 22%
    400-499 4% 1%
    300-399 0% 0%
    Mean 623 642
     
  5. njdos92

    njdos92 Buckeye Battalion Cadet

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    mom3boys, your data shows that my reading score is at the top end of one third of the class that entered West Point so I feel that it is good enough. I want to focus on my grades in college because I feel that they are more important than SAT scores because college grades show how the candidate will likely perform academically at West Point. I am content with my SAT scores because last year I was apparently 10 points shy of having a high enough Whole Candidate Score to get an LOA, I wish that I had done better on SATs but I cannot do anything about the past so I am looking ahead to college and I do not want to over burden myself when I go to college 9 hours away from home. If I was going to a college like Rutgers which is roughly 7 minutes from my home I would definitely retake the SATs. I am hoping that success at college will show that I am more than capable to succeed at West Point. My GPA and transcripts indicate to admissions that I do succeed academically.

    I appreciate your input. I think your son's MALO may have over exaggerated because your son's scores are at least in the 600s for each Math and Reading which is where a majority of the candidates admitted to West Point fell. There are other candidates that had gotten in with scores below a 600 meaning your son's MALO exaggerated a bit which is proven by the information you posted.

    Right now I believe that re-taking the SATs could hurt me more than help by diverting my attention away from my academic studies at OSU.

    Any more input that you have would be great to have. mom3boys, could you tell me how I compare to your sons that are at or were at West Point GPA, extra curricular activity, their SAT scores that got them in, etc. It would be great to be able to compare my records to that of someone that actually got in and not from a packet that gives percentiles. I hope your sons are healthy at West Point and I hope to join them next June. Thank you again for giving such great input and helping me.
     
  6. scoutpilot

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    Is the Buckeye Barbeque Qlub accepting satellite members???
     
  7. njdos92

    njdos92 Buckeye Battalion Cadet

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    I don't think they accept satellite members but it could be something that I would want to bring over to West Point and start. What better idea for a club than getting together with people and having a barbecue?
     
  8. Peter

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    I've been told that when applying to a service academy as a college student, you should keep your grades as top priority. IF you have the extra time, then do some extracurriculars to help out your application, but don't make that as important/more important than your grades. Mainly, if you had strong extracurriculars in high school, grades should be your top priority in college when applying to West Point.
     
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    I am trying to see how a 590 is top 1/3? While 1/3 of those accepted had a score in that range, it wasn't the top 1/3. I am sure you have researched what wp wants for students applying from college.

    My son's situation was different, as he was a recruited corps squad athlete. However, his SAT scores and GPA, as well as leadership and extra curriculars, would most likely have had him accepted regardless. Being recruited and receiving the LOA certainly helped speed the process along. When you have a talent or skill that an SA wants, you do not need a laundry list of activities to get in the door. Excelling at one thing is often enough. However, lest you think he is some "dumb athlete," I will mention that he has been on the Dean's List each sememster at WP and was recently named to the Patriot League Academic Honor Roll. :thumb:
     
  10. freedomtruck

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    SAT's do not reflect how well one will perform in an Academic environment (school). I'm not surprised that he is getting along fine academically at West point :)
     
  11. Antonio

    Antonio USMA Cadet

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    Your CFA looks great! That and a good athletics record can compensate for not so great SAT scores.
     
  12. drewdillon

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    njdos92 Congratulations on you acceptance to Ohio State. You are correct that we do not accept satellite members but it would be a great program to start. We are currently working on getting all our past tee shirts (the design changes each active quarter) online to purchase for remote fans. If you are serious about carrying BBQ to West Point I encourage you to join the grill team, and to express you're interest in that idea early and often. We'd be more then willing to help.

    Here is to great BBQ!
    Drew Dillon
    OSU BBQ Grillmaster and Alumni
     
  13. tallbutshort

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    DO IT!!!!!!!!! :biggrin::thumb:
     
  14. GoArmyBeatNavy

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    ROTC

    Hi,
    If you are in ROTC in college, ensure that you apply for an ROTC nomination.

    GOARMY.
     
  15. njdos92

    njdos92 Buckeye Battalion Cadet

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    Sorry about the confusion, I was saying that my score of 590 was at the top of that third. Meaning of the third of the people admitted with that score range. Your son seems very impressive, to be a top athlete and to excel academically something that not everyone can do.

    Thank you everyone for you input, it is greatly appreciated.
     

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