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1st July 2012
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Can I get an AFROTC scholarship?
Hey guys. This is my first post here and I am curious about my chances for an AFROTC scholarship.
My stats: GPA: 3.57 (unweighted), 4.08 (weighted) ACT: 33 ( 33R, 33E, 33M, 32S) SAT: 1390 (700CR, 690M) (1400 super scored) should I report this? College credit: Wil graduate with 20+ (2 AP's, 2 Dual Enrollment, 19 honors) Major: Non technical (finance/international business) Extracurriculars: Baseball (9th, 10th) shoulder surgery prevented play junior year, and I may have to have another surgery (possibly requesting PFA waiver because of the inability to do pushups) Future Business Leaders of America (FBLA) (10th, 11th, 12th) Distributive Education Clubs of America (DECA) (11th, 12th) Volunteering: ~100 hours of miscellaneous work Awards: FBLA: 2011: 1st place at districts (E-Business), 7th place at State (E-business) DECA: 2012: 3rd place at invitational (Financial Services Team Decision Making), 1st place at districts (Financial Services Team Decision Making), 4th place at State (Financial Services Team Decision Making), 4th place at State (International Business Plan), International Competitor (International Business Plan) Baseball: 2011 Summer: State tournament most valuable hitter Leadership: Vice President of DECA Team leader in organization of fundraisers, raising $1500< Work Experience: Summer 2012: Social Media Marketing and Search Engine Optimization for international manufacturing automation company (~8 hrs/week) Summer 2012: Financial Metrics and Reporting for international consumer services franchising company (~16 hrs/week) High School of Business Not sure if this is relevant to the AF, but my school is one of about 40 in the country that offers the High School of Business. What it is is that students take certain classes throughout their high school years, and they graduate with a separate diploma from the "High School of Business". There is talk about making this diploma worth 12 credits at our state colleges, because the classes are equivalent to those of a first year business student in college. I will graduate with this diploma, and I did not factor these credits into the previous 20+ Medical Issues As previously mentioned, I had surgery on my shoulder to repair a torn labrum. During the surgery, a tool broke and a piece was left in my shoulder. I may have to have another operation in the coming months to take it out, thus rendering me unable to do pushups. Also, in middle school while playing football, I sustained a hip injury. Throughout many bouts of physical therapy and MRI's, no problem or solution could be determined. However, due to the fact that the shoulder tear was not seen on the MRI, the doctors think that there may be a similar problem in the hip. Most likely a torn hip flexor that didnt heal correctly, or a torn labrum. An opperation will most likely happen here... So what do you guys think? I hope the medical problems dont disqualify me... Last edited by Tkaler; 1st July 2012 at 11:32 PM. Reason: html issues 
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1st July 2012
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Your biggest hurdle will be getting Qualified through Dodmerb, you will most likely be DQ's right off the bat, then AFROTC will request a waiver if you are a competitive applicant. Waivers are increasingly harder to get. The fact that you will need surgery so close to the application and the unknown and probable surgery for your hip will be a problem. The other issue is that with the surgery if you are unable to do the PFA they will not waive it, there are way too many applicants that have no medical issues. The only way you will know for sure is to apply and go through the process. However you should also look heavy at a Plan B and C, your medical situation will be an issue.
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2nd July 2012
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Ok... I would be able to complete the PFA my during college, and I am physically fit. The test wouldn't be a problem for me without the medical issues. My BMI, waist measurements, and situps are all good enough for the maximum points allowed. And the rest would come after the surgery. If I can get a 3 year scholarship, can I defer the PFA until the sophomore year?
Last edited by Tkaler; 2nd July 2012 at 12:33 AM. Reason: Typo
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2nd July 2012
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Your gpa is good, not amazing unweighted, but your test scores should make up for that. You seem pretty sound in every area except the physical one. Only one sport, but your medical status will be the biggest issue you'll have to overcome in order to be qualified to accept a scholarship offer since they don't send you to dodmerb for AFROTC until one is offered. But in order to get that far you have to first have a qualifying PFT score. If your surgery will stop you from completing the PFT for a while afterwards, try taking it now if you can manage to get someone qualified to proctor it now that school's out. Hopefully it all works out for you, you'll have a whole year to recover so it may all work out perfectly. Just curious, the (2 AP's, 2 Dual Enrollment, 19 honors), is that what you will graduate with or what you already have?
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2nd July 2012
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3rd July 2012
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red = huge or disqualifying problem. green = strong point blue = good but not great Way too much red in your file. 10%-20% chance if the medical issue are definitively corrected prior to file review. 0% chance if the medical issues are not definitively addressed. Read various threads on this Board about medical waivers. I think you're missing the big picture, which is your fellow servicemen depend on you being medically fit.-- I hope for your sake (and I mean that sincerely, not maliciously) that the medical problems, if left unfixed, DO disqualify you. I wouldn't want to find myself behind enemy lines needing to carry my fellow airman to safety simply because he (you) were dead weight from the outset. Let me ask you this... why do you think there exist medical qualifications for servicemen? Common disqualifiers are: overweight, flat feet, asthma, allergies, color blindness, depression, ADHD, Migraine headaches, misaligned joints, and a few other things that might not seem like much in civilian life, but can put you and fellow servicemen in danger. Having hip and shoulder muscles that cannot perform properly is just as serious. Get yourself medically fit first, then consider putting yourself in harms way where you (and those around you) will need those shoulder and hip muscles performing properly. To put this a different way, would you ever write: "I hope they don't check the brakes at my car inspection before for my cross country trip with my baby sister, because I know my brakes are shot"? Last edited by dunninla; 3rd July 2012 at 05:57 PM.
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3rd July 2012
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I appreciate the input. I understand that, and it's a great analogy you made. However, all of these problems can be fixed. The issue is if they can be fixed in time for me to take my test an get my application in.
A second shoulder surgery is not confirmed yet. It may or may not have to happen. Due to a complication during the first operation in February. I am certain that given enough time, I could recover and be a perfectly suitable airmen. They can be fixed. I just don't know if the time restraint will kill me. I just had an idea. Can you send in additional information after you turn in the application? (some colleges allow you to send in your app, and then if you receive a higher score on a yes or receive an award, you can send that in and they will reconsider your app) Would the airforce allow me to do this with the PFA? I struggle through it the first time, do my best. I probably wouldn't be selected first board, but I could continue recovery and submit a new one? I still don't know if it would be enough time but I sure hope so.
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3rd July 2012
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Recovering from the surgery or injury is not really the issue. The fact that there was an injury and not just one is more the issue. Even if you have surgery and recover you can still be disqualified for having a history of injuries. If as you say a piece of the tool was left in your shouder during the first surgery, that alone if not removed could be enough to DQ the medical. There will need to be a documented amount of time after all the surgeries are complete that will show that you can perform without restrictions or re- injury. A couple months and even a year may not be enough time to determine how your injuries have healed. Since you will most likely not be able to participate in Varsity level sports during you final year of high school there will be no way to document your ability or level of recovery.
Just to give you an example. My son had a slight Avulsion Fracture of the hip doing Track in the Spring of his sophomore year, no surgery was needed, just rest and he missed the State finals in Track. The hip healed over the summer and he was back in Varsity Cross Country by Fall of his junior year, he had no problems, he participated in Varsity Track in the Spring, again no problems. Over the summer he took his APFT for the Army scholarship and passed with a high score. He participated again in Varsity cross Country the Fall of his Senior year. When he went through the Dodmerb Physical he had all the documentation and letters from the doctor, he was qualified the first go around. The point is that he was able to show a long enough track record of his ability to perform without restrictions. Had this happened less then a year before he applied I am sure he would have been DQ'd. When you fill out the Dodmerb medical history they will ask you questions about surgeries and injuries, when you check yes you will then be directed to a page that you fill out documenting the entire injury and treatment. The biggest question on that section is where you explain everything you have been able to do since the injury was healed, this is where the track record is formed. With no track record of athletics over a long period of time the chances of being qualified are very very low. If you are somehow able to do the PFA for the scholarship application and are selected you will have a certain amount of time, usually until the first semester is over to become dodmerb qualified, in your case that is still not much time. You really need to talk to the AFROTC Battalion at a couple of the schools you want to attend and lay all this out for them. They may be able to help you chart a path to follow. We are not trying to discourage you, just be aware of the pitfalls ahead of you, they are bigger then you think. Pima can answer this better then me but you may be able to join AFROTC as a non scholarship cadet, most cadets are non scholarship, and if everything works in your favor you may be able to get Dodmerb Qualified by the middle of your sophomore year. Take a look through the Dodmerb section of this forum and you will get an idea of the many issues, some that seem minor, are cause for disqualification. As far as your straight chance at recieving a scholarship, based on the stats posted in the past of those that received a scholarship, I would say 40%, but that's a guess that in this date in time is not worth much.
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