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Professor Faces Firing for Joke Tied to Shootings
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/16/ny...?smid=tw-share After turning down the lights in his classroom at the United States Merchant Marine Academy, Prof. Gregory F. Sullivan began showing a documentary and prepared to step out for a moment. Connect with NYTMetro Metro Twitter Logo. Follow us on Twitter and like us on Facebook for news and conversation. But first, according to an internal personnel document, he paused to make a parting joke: “If someone with orange hair appears in the corner of the room,” he is said to have remarked to his students, “run for the exit.” The joke — a reference to James E. Holmes, who is accused of fatally shooting 12 people and wounding 58 more last month in a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., and who dyed his hair bright orange — would not have been especially funny in any setting. But in this classroom, 11 days after the shootings, it was dreadful. One student’s father had been killed in the shootings. Hearing his teacher’s joke, the student left the room, obviously upset, according to the internal document. The institution’s academic dean has recommended that Professor Sullivan, who, according to the internal document, said that he had been unaware of the student’s loss, be fired for the remark. In a “notice of proposed removal” issued last week, the dean wrote that the joke constituted “notoriously disgraceful conduct” under the academy’s rules forbidding “misconduct generally criminal, infamous, dishonest or notoriously disgraceful.” The notice said that Professor Sullivan, a tenured humanities instructor who has been at the academy, in Kings Point, N.Y., since 2006 and had a positive reputation among students, had offered a “quick and remorseful admission” to administrators and a “personal apology immediately following the incident” to the bereaved student and to the class as a whole. But the notice said that Professor Sullivan “reasonably should have been aware” of the student’s loss, because the academy had sent out an academywide e-mail about it on July 25, because that student had been absent from Professor Sullivan’s course for several days and because the professor had given permission to two other classmates to miss class so that they could attend a funeral in Colorado. “I find there is no lesser sanction to effectively address this misconduct” than dismissal, the dean, Shashi Kumar, wrote. The notice, dated Aug. 10, informed Professor Sullivan that he had 10 days to contest his dismissal. He has been suspended in the meantime. Professor Sullivan declined to comment, saying that the academy’s faculty was not permitted to speak with the news media unless the academy gave permission. B. Robert Kreiser, a senior program officer in the department of academic freedom, tenure and governance at the American Association of University Professors, said that in “generally accepted principles of tenure,” a professor with tenure would receive a hearing before a faculty committee before charges would be brought. Professor Sullivan’s suspension, Mr. Kreiser continued, would be appropriate only if he “represents a threat to himself or to others.” “Given that it was a single remark — an indefensible remark, but nonetheless a single remark, for which he has apologized — it’s hard to imagine why the administration decided he should be suspended” in the interim, he said. The academy, which is near Great Neck, on Long Island, is a civilian institution run by the United States Transportation Department whose faculty members are federal employees. The academy trains students for careers in the marine trade, but it operates under the rules of military discipline. Its 1,000 or so students, who attend without charge, are organized into a regiment; many of its faculty members identify themselves by rank. The academy is led by Rear Adm. James A. Helis, who said: “The academy’s first priority is the well-being of its students. As soon as I learned of the incident, I immediately placed the professor involved on administrative leave. and he is not teaching class at this time.” “As with any investigation,” he added, “we are interviewing both students and faculty, and the professor will have the opportunity to respond before we issue our final determination.” |
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[I]Top story, channel 9 news, 5 p.m., Denver, Co. It already took unbelievable courage for this 18 year old to return to school. This borders on being intentionally cruel.
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It doesn't take unbelievable courage to return to a school, especially a relatively secure school with classmates you trust.
His immediate apology was likely.... saying something "clever", suddenly realizing what he had done, and apologizing to the student. I've seen graduate students cry and leave a room for much much less (but grad students tend to be thin skinned).
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LITS,
I beg to differ this is not about a secure environment regarding courage. This is about a child who lost their father in a blink of an eye. Emotionally you just don't go: Well the funeral is over, I am off to go back to school thousands of miles away, see you at Thanksgiving! It takes a lot to get your head on straight and compartmentalize that pain so you can do what your father wanted...make a future for yourself. It takes a lot of courage to move forward and not take the easy route of leaving. Nobody would have thought less of him if he left under these circumstances, not talking about the remark, talking about the loss. I hope you have not had to deal with the loss of a parent yet, but trust me, I have and mentally,emotionally it takes time to get back in a place of all there, more than just a week or two.
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It takes unbelievable courage!!!
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We're devaluing the word "courage" much as we have done with the word "hero".
Is it hard? Yep. Do I feel for him, and other families involved? ABSOLUTELY! I had classmates who lost their parents while we were cadets. We gathered around them and did whatever we could. After awhile your academy family becomes a part of your family. My best man at my wedding was my classmate and roommate. He was right there settling my nerves and ensuring I didn't pass out or puke at the alter. Let's not say someone has courage because they have hardships that countless others have each day. I was never willing to call Gabby Giffords a "hero". She isn't. To take it a step further and call it "unbelieveable" courage? No. Not in my book. It devalues the actions of others that is truely courageous. I'm not willing to willy-nilly assign meaningful words to any old action or inaction.
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LITS,
You know I respect you, but honestly I think you are 1000% off base. Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear. ~Ambrose Redmoon He is 18, lost a parent and now because this Professor said a stupid remark he is thrown into this media mix, while trying to maintain his grades, mourn the loss of his father and feel the guilt of a Professor liked by his students being dismissed, within what 11 days after his father was killed. You nor I know his relationship with his father. You nor I know how his Mother or siblings are handling this loss. It takes a lot to go back to school and forget the fear that Mom and little sis/bro are at home packing up Dad's things. That is courage. I like you LITS, but WOW is all I can say when you posted this part Quote:
Dad's death and wedding day jitters are not in the same ballpark, not in the same world, or planet. That was or should have been the happiest day of your life, not the saddest day. Honestly was there a chance in your mind that you would pass out or vomit on your wedding day? The night my father died, my sister, 34 yos vomited in his hospital room because she was crying so hard. My grandmother when my grandfather died had to be pulled away from the casket because she just wanted him to wake up. I was 28 when I lost my father, I was not close to him, but my heart broke because he would never see his namesake, he would never see my sister and brother get married. My MIL is stage 4 cancer, 12 months at best, 8 grandchildren. She will never see a grandchild get married, and only see one graduate from college. My heart is breaking and I am 47. I have buried everyone of my grandparents and my father. I am preparing our children for her death. They have time to say what is needed to be said. This kid could have had an argument the last time they talked, something for the rest of his life he has to live with. He had no time to prepare. You need to think about the pain that 18 yo child felt/feels. Anyone that has lost a parent at whatever age has respect for him and in their mind he showed courage to dust himself off and move forward, return to school a week after his father's death. Sorry, but OMG this kid is courageous in my book.
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For what it's worth, the following is a detailed account of the event by a 3/C midshipman who was there at the time. It was left as a comment on the gCaptain article.
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As a postscript - according to the NY Times today, the professor has been given a 45-day suspension and will not be terminated.
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Personally...and only my opinion..I think a 45-day suspension is unwarranted and much too severe, BUT am very pleased to see that the professor in question will retain his position. Good to see that cooler and rational minds prevailed here....
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