rotc question

[kinnem]

Originally Posted by adoloris

Heard from DS,finally had his meeting with his commander. He received some positive feedback on his skills, etc. What the PMS wants from him and the others is a stepped up level of "motivation". They discussed in detail what this means and how he is to achieve it. The PMS wants to get his top cadets to perform at a higher level thereby bringing the entire unit "up". He is very pleased with DS's attitude and academics, etc. DS was also able to get some very good advice about changing his major and guidance toward his goal of aviation which he hadn't received before. He really respects and likes his PMS and knows that these are very good goals. We discussed how a really good mentor can guide you and push you to grow in ways that you may be unaware of at the time. So, apparently the dressing down of DS and the others had several purposes. It certainly did have my DS mentally review his actions, conduct, skills, etc. and look for areas of improvement. Also, it most likely shook up the entire unit down to the deadwood.

Thanks for the update adoloris! This was an interesting tale and it seems that either the PMS was requiring 100% from everyone, or more likely redefining what 100% meant. Certainly the latter seems to be the case with your DS. Glad to hear about the aviation guidance he got. This PMS certainly seems to be interested in getting the best from, and the best for, his "boys". And he did it in a way that rattled the whole unit with reverberations all the way back home! Nothing wrong with enlisting Mom and Dad in helping to make the "upgrade" I suppose, but I'm sure you found it a harrowing experience as would I. Glad the story has a happy ending!

[adoloris]

I just wanted to thank everyone for their input and am thankful for the outcome. Also, very glad that DS handled this himself but felt that he could still call home to talk and be open to suggestions. Very thankful that he got excellent guidance from his new PMS concerning DS's plans for the future. I suppose this unit was just bumping along-same ole-same ole. People get used to a routine and each other etc--becomes cultural in a way. Anyhow, would love to know all of the intricate details but got what I needed to know. It's funny, but when DS was a kid I would give info on a need to know basis-turn about is fair play He's made his adjustments, it's over with, and he's moved on.
Also, his cadre evaluations were always positive which added to the confusion. Great life lessons learned. Love this forum

[Marist College ROTC]

Originally Posted by wolfpack1993

This seems like an odd situation. As far as I know, it's very difficult to get disenrolled. You have to fail your APFT, not make the cut academically, or have discipline issues.

If a Cadet is not contracted, it is quite easy to disenroll them. If a school has a contract mission of 20, has already contracted 15, and you are number 6 of 10 on the OML of remaining Cadets for your year group, you may be disenrolled without having done anything wrong.

[Pima]

Marist,

Confused, Adoloris's DS is an MSIII, wouldn't that be considered contracted since they are a POC?

I only ask because for AFROTC a POC is contracted, regardless of scholarship. There is no number per unit, it is if they graduate from SFT(aka MSII summer training) they are considered a POC and contract that fall.

Hence,
Adoloris's DS is 2014 class, and using your 20/15 example and 10 are left, does that means they don't contract as a POC?

When is the cut off for contracting? Are you saying that as an MSIII they could be a POC and not contracted? Or are you discussing contracting from a big picture perspective?

I know it sounds like a stupid question, but with DS2 considering this path, I am trying to understand where the line in the sand is drawn.

[dunninla]

Originally Posted by Pima

Marist,

Confused, Adoloris's DS is an MSIII, wouldn't that be considered contracted since they are a POC?.

I'm assuming Marist was speaking in general, and not particularly about adoloris' DS.

I do find Marist's post interesting in that uncontracted cadets (MSI and MSII) are retained or not depending on the contracting quota/mission of each Battalion. It makes sense, I just hadn't given the whole uncontracted cadet issue a lot of thought before.