How are my CFA scores?

[Blackbird]

Originally Posted by Pima

. . . as Flieger stated a long time ago, this yr a 700 on each section of the SAT may place the candidate in jeopardy, especially since they take superscore.

Wow, impressive that well rounded candidates with a 700 (31 ACT) on each section maybe in jeopardy of not getting an appointment. That is some serious competition . . .

[Packer]

Originally Posted by Pima

Not to hijack the thread, but the superscoring issue has always puzzled me. AFA superscores, AFROTC takes the best sitting.

They superscore because the numbers look impressive. Gotta play the game.

Sorry to be so cynical.

[Packer]

Originally Posted by Blackbird

Wow, impressive that well rounded candidates with a 700 (31 ACT) on each section maybe in jeopardy of not getting an appointment. That is some serious competition . . .

The average for the last couple of years is 30 ACT, 680/640 (M/CR) SAT so a 31 ACT 700 SAT being in jeopardy seems to be a bit of a stretch.

[Pima]

1. Remember that maybe for Flieger's area as an ALO, that is the number.

Look at VA. It is very competitive, and that would be in alignment for the students coming from Northern VA.

In Fairfax county, the avg SAT score is @1350. That is the avg, so if you score a 1350 you are in the 50%.

IS colleges in our area that would not be seen as "selective" have the avg SAT score of 1280. GMU has that avg, and for us that is a safety. UVA is on par with the AFA, and 1350 would place the student at a reach for them if it was purely based on academics, which it isn't.

Now go to NC, and Wayne County, the avg is probably 1200. So you need to also understand that you can't compare each candidate right off the bat, because they will 1st compete on their slate level, and if not selected, but high enough they may go to the NWL pool, and that would be where for PAR purposes regarding the SAT portion, the NC kid would be at a disadvantage against the No. Va candidate.

2. The 1320 is the avg. Now remember that they have cadets coming in from Falcon, and traditionally, Falcon is there for a building block academically, thus they usually have a weaker SAT score.

We can throw stats around all day long, but if you are looking at it, and include the Falcon candidate, the numbers would be skewed, since it is @ 10% of the class for this yr. Remove those and I would believe for direct admit to the AFA the SAT would be higher than the 1320 it has been in recent years.

Which brings us back to #1. Depending on your slate a 1400 might be the mid pack for the candidate.

Packer, I do understand the numbers game, and I am a proponent for ending superscoring not only with the SA's, but all colleges. Back in my day, you got 2 chances, they took the best sitting of the 2. If you went on for a 3rd, than the scores were averaged, thus most kids wouldn't risk it by taking the third.

The irony here is parents scream that due to No Child Left Behind teachers are teaching the test. They don't realize that by allowing your child to take 4,5,6, etc SAT/ACTs you are doing the exact same thing. The child is learning how to take the test, yet nobody is in an uproar about superscoring.

Sorry to again hijack the thread. Just remember the CFA does count, and you should submit a strong score, because only 1050 are expected to enter, compare that to the class of 12 where @ 1350 entered. Shaving 300 cadets off of even that class would mean their WCS would not look the same as it did when they were appointed.

Supply and demand. Short supply, high demand, prices rise. That is what the class of 16 will be, in this case the price is their stats.

[Packer]

Pima, we are way off in the weeds here but I think we mostly agree. I think the average SAT score will rise some this year but not to 700+. Approximately 1/2 of the class is below the average. There will be very few appointments off of the NWL this year as almost all of the slots will be filled by MOC slates, presidential, etc. The key is the competion on your MOC's slate. On one slate a 1200 SAT may win and on another a 1500 may not. The test scores are only one piece of the WCS and you must do your best in all areas to win your MOC slate. That includes doing your best on the CFA.

[crair70]

Thanks Pima- I forgot USAFA does not allow CFA retests- He is also applying to USNA so will post the same question there and see what the verdict is...

BTW- Also puzzled about AFROTC vs USAFA Act/SAT Score policy. DS has applied to AFROTC as well and we were surprised they did not super score??

[navy2016]

Originally Posted by cchung34

Do you mind looking at my CFA scores? I'm a girl.

Basketball throw - 64 feet
Shuttle Run - 8.1 sec
Pull-ups - 3
Push-ups - 50
Sit-ups - 95
Mile - 7:32

I'm worried about the mile. Ironically, I'm in cross country and this was definitely not my best. Did anybody get really tired after all of these events that your scores for the mile wasn't as good as it could be? That happened to me

You did well. Yes you could improve on mile run but you did so well on the others I probably wouldn't go through the trouble. Just stay fit.

[Stephanie2012]

Retook my CFA today. Female:
mile: 7:08
pushups: 50 (Max)
situps: 95 (Max)
pullups: 5
shuttle 8.4 (Max)
BB throw: 54

I really am hoping these scores will get me somewhere this time. Thanks!

[Blackbird]

Originally Posted by Stephanie2012

Retook my CFA today. Female:
mile: 7:08
pushups: 50 (Max)
situps: 95 (Max)
pullups: 5
shuttle 8.4 (Max)
BB throw: 54

I really am hoping these scores will get me somewhere this time. Thanks!

Very nicely done Stephanie.