NROTC 2013 students / parents

[Pima]

nofodad,

You got it regarding my post.

My point was and is don't place any weight, time or energy regarding the stats for a scholarship recipient 2 yrs ago. ESPECIALLY if you are not placing majors and schools in the equation.

A 30 is a strong ACT, but is it strong enough for FY13 as a STEM candidate? We don't have that answer because we don't know the pool.

I feel that jbrichmond was looking for chances, and if that is the case, he needs to see what the pool looks like for FY13, not FY 11. There is nothing wrong for looking for chances, but it is important to evaluate/weight the answers properly.

Part of finding peace during this process is understanding the finer points when it comes to awarding scholarships. You can only find peace when you understand that FY11 scores are FY11 and not FY13. Do not use 11 as the OMG, I am safe, or OMG I am out.

[jbrichmond22]

Pima: I see where you are coming from and I apprrciate it. My post is titled "NROTC 2013 Students / parents. I am not chancing anything, I just want to hear from those who are in the same waiting game I am. I realize that every year is different, and I simply wanted to see who was in this boat with me.

[Pima]

jb,

I understand you wanting to see who is in the same boat as you, but you asked for their older child's stats and not the younger child's stats. The person in the same boat as you is the younger child, the older child's boat sailed two yrs ago. Thus, the reason why I and others have stated what we posted.

That being said, it is important that all candidates remember college selection will be a part in the decision making process, thus, unlike AFROTC where you have 2 big boats (Tech vs Non-Tech), NROTC has lots of little boats that will be your competition and you need to place that into your consideration when looking at the true competition.

For example:
You apply to:
ERAU
VT
UVA
UNCCH
PSU

another candidate applies to:
TAMU
Villanova
Notre Dame
Purdue
GT

The stats really don't matter because neither one of you will be competing for a scholarship at the same school. The list matters. I say this because just by looking at stats some kids will become concerned that they are not on par with other candidates, thus, no scholarship, and some will become overly confident that the Congrats letter will be arriving in the mail anyday now.

Neither belief is 100% correct. All that is correct is the school choices are part of the process, NROTC is not going to force you to apply to a school you don't want to attend, thus they are going to put that into the equation. Stats do matter, but to make an informed decision you need to place everything into that equation, if you don't the answer will be different.

[jbrichmond22]

Pima: you always have the most informative answers, I would have to say 90% of my knowledge towards these scholarships has come from you. To further what you said, I may add, if I want to change a school, then would it be a bad idea to request that change this far in the game? I like the school, but I have no chance at admissions for this #3 school on my list (GT). I have a better idea and one that I honestly looked right over that is much closer to home and will be easier to earn admittance too as a student. What do you think?

[Non Ducor Duco]

Originally Posted by jbrichmond22

Pima: you always have the most informative answers, I would have to say 90% of my knowledge towards these scholarships has come from you. To further what you said, I may add, if I want to change a school, then would it be a bad idea to request that change this far in the game? I like the school, but I have no chance at admissions for this #3 school on my list (GT). I have a better idea and one that I honestly looked right over that is much closer to home and will be easier to earn admittance too as a student. What do you think?

Jbrichmond, why do you think you have no chance of being admitted to GT? I might be able to help you there if you let me know your stats.

[Pima]

The problem I see for you regarding change is the reasons why you want to change the school list.

You stated it was closer to home and a better chance of admittance, not that I like the campus and the program more than GT. One of the reasons kids do poorly in college is because they didn't want to be at that college in the 1st place. College is not only academics, but it is your social life too. Your friends become your family there. You have to balance both worlds. If the school is only EH to you, but you placed it on the list because of chances, than be prepared to get the scholarship to that school.

I can't remember the poster here who did place a school on his list that they really, really didn't want to attend, guess where he got his scholarship to in the end? That school! He tried to switch it after he was awarded, but couldn't. In the end he was dreading going off to college.

The only way you know you have 0% chance of getting into GT is if someone on the admissions board has already said that your application would be an immediate reject. Has anyone told you that?

The only time that someone can say with 1000% certainty of you not getting admitted to any college is when you say I didn't apply.

[jbrichmond22]

Originally Posted by Pima

The problem I see for you regarding change is the reasons why you want to change the school list.

You stated it was closer to home and a better chance of admittance, not that I like the campus and the program more than GT. One of the reasons kids do poorly in college is because they didn't want to be at that college in the 1st place. College is not only academics, but it is your social life too. Your friends become your family there. You have to balance both worlds. If the school is only EH to you, but you placed it on the list because of chances, than be prepared to get the scholarship to that school.

I can't remember the poster here who did place a school on his list that they really, really didn't want to attend, guess where he got his scholarship to in the end? That school! He tried to switch it after he was awarded, but couldn't. In the end he was dreading going off to college.

The only way you know you have 0% chance of getting into GT is if someone on the admissions board has already said that your application would be an immediate reject. Has anyone told you that?

The only time that someone can say with 1000% certainty of you not getting admitted to any college is when you say I didn't apply.

The school closer to home is a great school, and I toured it recently. I would have no problem going there, the only turn off would be that it would still be in the same general area, and no change of scenery for me. Otherwise, I would love the school.

Originally Posted by Non Ducor Duco

Jbrichmond, why do you think you have no chance of being admitted to GT? I might be able to help you there if you let me know your stats.

Well from looking at the stats and reading up, i feel as if i would be below the average for SAT/ACT scores and I know that GT is one of the most elite engineering schools in the USA. I second Pima in that if I dont apply, then i will have no chance; but i will apply. Any help you could provide me with would be awesome. Thanks

[Non Ducor Duco]

jbrichmond22,

Sent you a PM

[Roxymom]

My son's NROTC application should be complete in next few days. Is nomination needed ?
There's no mention on NROTC website but local recruiter said "yes"?

(He has applied to USNA also and requested nominations.)

Thanks

[jbrichmond22]

No nomination needed for the NROTC Scholarship, I can't speak for the other branch scholarships, but I would imagine not. Maybe your recruiter was speaking of the recommendations/evaluations that the teachers must complete and submit? Or possibly letters of recommendation from other family who was in the service? All I can say is that you DO NOT need a nomination to receive or be a candidate for an NROTC Scholarship.

I am sure Pima or another very experienced/informative board member will be able to further explain.

Hope that helps!