A desperation question!

[CAP_C/2dLt]

Well, sorry to bug you guys with another question, but I have to let it out. Well, I called my admissions officer at the Academy and she said that they've already given me a rank. In addition, I asked her about my SAT scores and she said there fine (Math 610, Critical Reading 600, Writing 650). Also, they haven't told me I'm not qualified in any of the areas. Finally, I have received two nominations. So, what are my chances? What do you guys think is going on? Yes, I know: I have to be patient and wait...Just let me know.

[HNeedle]

wait til march :)

[texan101]

yup all you can do is wait. i'm in basically the same situation, 2 noms and around the same sat scores. just wait

[Christcorp]

Too many variable to answer your questions. You've been scored and ranked. Nothing can change that. You've got nominations. That too is good. But what about all the variables? How many others in your state/district received nominations? Where are you on that list of nominations? How many slots does your senators/rep have open at the academy? You showed your SAT's; but how did the others in your state/district do? How will these scores, gpa, class rank, sports, etc.... compare with them and against the national pool? What do you bring to the academy that these others don't bring? Were some of the others nominated in your state looking at air force as a primary academy or a backup to navy and army? Did they receive offers from those academies.

Do I really need to go on? Look; if you've read my posts, then you know that generally I am a very positive and up beat guy. The glass is ALWAYS half full. But I also live by the "Serenity Prayer". You know, the one that says: "God grant me the serenity to ACCEPT the things I CAN NOT CHANGE; Courage to CHANGE the things I CAN; and Wisdom alway to TELL THE DIFFERENCE." Well my friend; you are at one of those "THINGS I CAN NOT CHANGE" points in your life. Sit back, relax, enjoy your senior year, and wait it out. It's February 1st. That means you will know in the next couple months. Just hang in there. I won't blow sunshine up your butt. Yes, your SAT look good. That's ALL YOU GAVE us, but it really doesn't matter. As long as you don't fail a class this semester, nothing you do is going to change your scores or rating. So; make sure all your other college applications are done and completed. Have all your backup plans ready to go. Then; should you get the appointment, you will be ready. If you don't get the appointment, you'll still be ready. Best of luck to you. later... mike....

[CAP_C/2dLt]

Thanks

[Luigi59]

Originally Posted by CAP_C/2dLt

So, what are my chances?...

7.8 out of 10 for an appointment.

[weston]

Ok, I'm just a senior in high school, but I got an appointment offer so I'll try to give you an idea of why I think they sent me an LOA.. It's not AT ALL about SAT scores. They do help show that you study hard and have the mental ability to succeed, but everyone who gets candidate status has over 600 on each section i believe. What the Air Force wants leading its men are leaders, and that means people who are never content with where they are. My idea of a leader is someone who pushes himself/herself to be the best and brings up everyone around them as well. They also want to see that you want the academy to be the best for your country and not for yourself (I think anyone can agree thats not an efficient means). Another thing is they don't want mediocre. They look for well rounded, but were you good at everything as well? Were you not just in a sport, but did you letter? Did you stay in boy scouts till you got eagle? From what I know, the academy lives and breathes these principles. Thats what got me set on USAFA and thats why 2013 will see me at BCT this June.

The fact that you're on here "desparate" to go shows that you probably have these principles as well. Good luck I hope to see you there

[flyersboy114]

Hey I'm in a similar situation, 630 630 sats, and two Noms :D

Hang in there bro, there are many of u saround the country that are just as impatient as you are : )

[Christcorp]

Originally Posted by weston

Ok, I'm just a senior in high school, but I got an appointment offer so I'll try to give you an idea of why I think they sent me an LOA.. It's not AT ALL about SAT scores. They do help show that you study hard and have the mental ability to succeed, but everyone who gets candidate status has over 600 on each section i believe. What the Air Force wants leading its men are leaders, and that means people who are never content with where they are. My idea of a leader is someone who pushes himself/herself to be the best and brings up everyone around them as well. They also want to see that you want the academy to be the best for your country and not for yourself (I think anyone can agree thats not an efficient means). Another thing is they don't want mediocre. They look for well rounded, but were you good at everything as well? Were you not just in a sport, but did you letter? Did you stay in boy scouts till you got eagle? From what I know, the academy lives and breathes these principles. Thats what got me set on USAFA and thats why 2013 will see me at BCT this June.

The fact that you're on here "desparate" to go shows that you probably have these principles as well. Good luck I hope to see you there

Weston; I can understand and appreciate your position on why you think you received an LOA, but I don't believe that it's that simple. Matter of fact; what you describe is so intangible, that it would be very difficult to determine if a person has all those things you're describing as a prerequisite for receiving an LOA.

Each candidate is multi-scored on their application. There is a score for everything; including your SAT/ACT scores. You are scored on your GPA, CFA, Writing Samples, letters of recommendations, sports, extra curricular, etc... Everything on your application is scored. NOW; considering that you CAN'T get an LOA (At least in the air force) unless your application is completed; with only your DODMRB and/or nomination still being required; means that your application has already been scored. Because of 50+ years of scores and applications to base decisions on; the academy knows pretty much based on your scores which percentile you will fit in. If you fit in a high enough percentile that they realize you will be offered an appointment (Assuming you pass physically and receive your nomination) whether it's now or 4 months from now; they will have a tendency to offer you a LOA. This is similar to a traditional college offering "Early Admissions". The goal is to excite you and make you commit to the academy without committing to other schools. If you have to wait until March, and receive offers from other schools prior, you might be tempted to accept another offer.

But this LOA can't be offered unless they have scored you or at the very least know the probably score when completed. This way a higher scored individual isn't left out at the expense of a lower scored individual. This score definitely includes your extra curricular activities like scouting, CAP, JrRotc, Varsity letter sports, etc... But it most definitely also includes your SAT/ACT scores, gpa, class rank, difficulty in classes, recommendations, interviews, etc... It's really the only way to determine such an assurance. Yes, there are exceptions and additional appointment slots, but we're talking about the 90+ of appointments/LOA being offered. later... mike....

[unitedstatesAFA2013]

(to be a little selfish for a second):

I have a question about my situation. I just cant get a tangible answer to this:
I was informed that I received my MOC's principal slot, and everything is either at or above average (extracurriculars, Sats, gpa, cfa, etc, and my ALO's recommendation was apparently the highest they could give) what are MY chances?