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Old 12th August 2009
Knarf Knarf is offline
 
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What are the typical qualifications for individuals that receive the LOA after the September review board? Is that posted anywhere?

I realize the goal is an appointment but this could have a huge effect on whether or not a nomination is received.
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Knarf, one of the moderators can definately answer this question.
I asked the same question.
Letters of assurance , from what I have been told, are for candidates the Academy really wants. The letter is contingent on passing the Dodmerb physical and maintaining your level of education, athletics and behavior.
From what I was told, the letter of assurance is a "nomination pass" so elected officals do not use one of their nominations on a candidate the academy wants regardless. Keeps the nomination for candidates that are competing for open slots.
I was told this by a graduate of the Naval Academy and by no means know this as fact. The graduate, graduated in the late 70's and may be speaking from a point back then and not now.
One of the moderators or current graduates can give you factual information on this, but what I was told makes sense.
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Most of that was my understanding also except that it does not require a nomination. My understanding is that you would still need the nomination but that some MOC use this as a tool to determine who they will give their nomination to. In fact, one of the Senators here states on his package that he wants to be informed if the candidate receives an LOA.

My question then is "What makes a candidate exceptional?" that they are awarded an LOA.
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Knarf,
Hopefully one of the moderators chimes in here, for I do not want to give false information.
From what was explained to me, athletes that did well at the sports camps/recruited ones for the sports teams/ Perfectly well rounded candidates and Diversity candidates usually get the LOA.
This could be totally wrong, like I said this was a graduate of the Naval Academy back in 1978 so it may hold no truth today.
I would believe your elected officials would know , but maybe they want notified in order not to eliminate another candidate by using a NOM on someone that has already been accepted by the Academy itself.
Hopefully someone more in the Know answers you. I was hoping by me responding to you, more would have chimed in.
Do not take anything I say as fact. I have seen a couple graduates volley back and forth with different answers and debate each other in interpretation.
I would honestly like to know this answer myself.
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What are the typical qualifications for individuals that receive the LOA after the September review board? Is that posted anywhere?

I realize the goal is an appointment but this could have a huge effect on whether or not a nomination is received.
There is no way to tell you exactly what / who may get an LOA. They typically go to highly qualified/well rounded candidates. Urban legend is that they go to athletes only. While top notch athletes may get them as well, so do other candidates. I have seen LOAs go to the near perfect test score/multiple varsity letter team captain athlete and I have seen LOAs go to strong leadership without team sports and mid/slightly above "average" accepted test scores and I have seen athletes that meet the minimum requirements get them too. There is no "formula" except to be the best you can be in all areas.

As to how the LOA works for the MOC - it MAY not be charged to the MOC but it CAN be charged to the MOC. It depends on how the MOC submits their slate and the MOC staff will know that - it is not something that the candidate needs to worry about. If the MOC submits an unranked slate with no principal, the SA is obligated to give the appointment to the candidate with the highest WCS. If that person happens to be the person with an LOA, then the MOC is charged the LOA recipient. Others may, or may not, be appointed off the slate from the National Pool. If the MOC submits a ranked slate with a principal and does NOT place the LOA recipient as principal, then the SA is obligated to appoint the principal off the slate and charge the principal to the MOC - the LOA will also get an appointment but will not be charged to that MOC. There are other scenarios as well but that is the simple answer. It can, and does, get complicated.

Best suggestion for those who feel they may be LOA worthy .... just about every truly competitive candidate to a SA is "LOA Worthy"... so make your file as strong as it can be, challenge yourself and don't stress over it ... you have zero control over if or when you may or may not get an appointment, let alone an LOA. Submit your file early and with as strong a file as you can, update it if/when substantive changes occur and then enjoy your senior year. Focus on what you can control and let the boards decide the rest. Get your package together as completely and professionally as possible, update as warranted. If you produce the best presentation of your qualifications that is possible, and know that you have done your absolute best then submit it and let the cards fall where they may without regrets. The vast majority of candidates do not get an LOA.
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Heres a link to a thread posted a few weeks ago about someone who has already recieved an LOA if you scroll through there it starts talking about his scores and such. But what they kept telling us at summer seminar is thet there are no cookie cutter Midshipmen or LOA recipients.

http://www.serviceacademyforums.com/...ead.php?t=7465
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An LOA should be the farthest thing from your mind at this point in the process. If you search "LOA" on this forum, you will find many threads and comments regarding them.

However, the "recipe" that resulted in an LOA last year or the year before may not be on the menu this year! There is NO WAY you can know what the review board wants/needs and is willing to extend an LOA for this year. Maybe a highly qualified candidate (think awesome test scores, GPA, sports, leadership roles) is from an "under represented" district. Or maybe that same highly qualified candidate is being highly recruited by Harvard or West Point or another school. Maybe this highly qualifed candidate is a heck of a linebacker and Navy has a need for a linebacker in the Class of 2014. In short, there is absolutely no way any candidate can assess their chances of receiving an LOA.

It is reported that 100 or so LOA's are extended each year. 1500 or so appointments are offered. Appointment is the goal, the only goal.

So, do not give it another thought. Get your application in early and in the best shape possible. Get after the applications for nominations from your MOC's. Fill out the application for VP nomination.

On your question about how MOC's treat the LOA.......I think it varies. Some want their nom to go to someone with an LOA while others figure the Academy will find another nom source for the LOA recipient, so choose other candidates. Some, most from what I have learned, submit an unranked slate including those with LOA's and let the Academy's choose who to extend offers of appointment to........

As difficult as it sounds, do not obsess over the LOA. Tell yourself over and over that you will not know anything from USNA until March 2010. Then, if you find out earlier, it is a bonus! If you need to beef up your CFA, get to training so you can update the CFA scores. Ask for a Candidate Visit Weekend once the academic year starts. Keep in touch, though do not "bug" your BGO.
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Knarf,
Apparently from all the threads I have read, and the absence of a real "clear" definition of the requirements, I would have to agree, stay focused on what is needed for the traditional route of admittence and work on getting your nomination source. Do not lose yourself in the quest for a LOA.
I read the brief description on the Naval Academy website and it is vague too.
I really doubt even the moderators or graduates themselves really have a clear idea of what is the criteria, for I believe in my own opinion and reading all of the posts on this blog string and the other academies there is not a clear answer, for the admission boards hold the criteria and it changes yearly with each new class. Lack of a better term, it is like the NFL draft. You may need player A this year, but player B next.
Whatever voids admissions is trying to fill, it appears this is who gets them and the letter is simply an enticement tool to keep them from going somewhere else.
It appears the chances are better with keeping focused on the absolute way and that is hardwork, dedication and follow through to get a nomination.
It is clear, no body really knows and the Academies are not obligated or will they yearly reveal the criteria to which they use to select candidates and LOA awardees.
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Thanks everyone for your responses. We are diligently pounding the pavement for a nomination and putting backup plans together. Just wanted to see if there was anything we might be missing.
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My daughter, Class of 2013, received an LOA from USNA. It was contingent on receiving a nomination, which she did receive from both our Congressman and Senator. The Senator's application specifically asked if she had received a LOA. She updated her application to the Congressman with the LOA after it was received.

I hope this helps.

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