TWE Thread

the_yeti2351

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There's a BFE thread, so why not a TWE thread?

Just state what college you will be/still are attending instead of the AFA. Also state if you will be applying for the class of 2015.

For me, it's defiantly the USMMA and I'm defiantly NOT applying for next year:thumb:
 
Someone who definitely is not re-applying might defiantly choose USMMA. or despite the fact many people supposedly re-apply you may be defiantly opposed to re-applying after being rejected.

BTW - how do you KNOW that most kids re-apply? Do you have a link or source for that statistic?
 
Well, you said either defiantly or definitely works for the sentence I wrote, and being that defiantly means "in a rebellious manner" I assumed you meant that I'm going against what most rejected applicants do, and that is re-apply again.

No, I do not think that most kids do apply next year but what makes you think that most kids who do not re-apply to the USAFA don't go to the USMMA?
 
No, I do not think that most kids do apply next year but what makes you think that most kids who do not re-apply to the USAFA don't go to the USMMA?
Gee...I don't know. The two academies are so similar maybe you're right and that's where most kids that don't re-apply to the USAFA end up at. :rolleyes:
 
Well, you said either defiantly or definitely works for the sentence I wrote, and being that defiantly means "in a rebellious manner" I assumed you meant that I'm going against what most rejected applicants do, and that is re-apply again.

No, I do not think that most kids do apply next year but what makes you think that most kids who do not re-apply to the USAFA don't go to the USMMA?

I definitely agree that "MOST" applicants don't reapply after being turned down by the air force academy. Especially the vast majority who didn't receive a nomination.

but what makes you think that most kids who do not re-apply to the USAFA don't go to the USMMA
Unless you can come up with some stats; I would say that LESS THAN 1% of the 9000-10,000 of those who didn't get an air force academy, wind up going to the Merchant Marine Academy. I would say that of all the academies, the merchant marine academy probably has the LEAST amount of applicants. Most people have never even heard of them. Air Force, Army, and Navy have the most recognition; (Probably about the same notoriety). Coast Guard is also known by the next largest amount. Merchant Marines are probably the least known of any academy. Now, if you were talking about those who got turned down by the naval academy going to the merchant marines, I might buy it. As aglages said, or eluded to, the air force and merchant marines are so different from each other, that it's pretty unlikely that it would be a person's #2 choice for each other.

Having said all that; there is absolutely nothing wrong with you or anyone else going to the merchant marine academy. They too are a valuable contribution to our military service and the defense of our country. Based on your first post of this thread, I assume you have been accepted to the Merchant Marine Academy. Good for you. And thank you for your service. And obviously, anyone who is attending an academy; whether it's army, navy, air force, coast guard, or merchant marines would not and can not apply to attend one of the other academies once they've enrolled.

But for those others who were serious about attending one of the academies; and if they went pretty far during the process with a nomination and good scores; many of them will probably reapply at least one more time. Many of them will look into ROTC at whatever college the do attend their freshman year. That too is a very honorable and admirable means of getting a commission. Many who did not receive an appointment will not reapply, will not pursue ROTC, and probably will not pursue any type of military service. And that too is alright. Chances are that those individuals didn't have serving their country as a commissioned officer as a very high priority. They probably had the free education higher on their priority list. And that too is ok, because the vast majority of applicants to a military academy really have no idea what they're getting into. Remember; the couple hundred of your that lurk and participate on this and other similar forums, are a very small percentage of academy applicants. Just because you are very knowledgeable about the academies, doesn't mean more are. So those that don't reapply the next year is probably for the best. For them and for the academies.

That's why you get a lot of brownie points for reapplying to the military academies after being turned down. After going through all that work, getting turned down, KNOWING what you're getting into, and willing to do all again;.... Yes, the academies will definitely give some extra consideration to those people. (Assuming they are competitive). And for those that don't reapply and choose not to do any military future, that's probably just as well for both them and the military. They probably weren't meant to be military officers. But best of luck to you yeti. I'm sure you will do well at the merchant marine academy. Later... Mike....
 
I know of someone my age (not a kid anymore. :cool:) who went to USMMA whose child is going to USAFA in the class of 2014. When I asked this kid if he was going to do USMMA and then go Navy as his father did, he laughed and laughed and said that no, he LOATHED BOATS.
 
Having said all that; there is absolutely nothing wrong with you or anyone else going to the merchant marine academy. They too are a valuable contribution to our military service and the defense of our country. Based on your first post of this thread, I assume you have been accepted to the Merchant Marine Academy. Good for you. And thank you for your service. And obviously, anyone who is attending an academy; whether it's army, navy, air force, coast guard, or merchant marines would not and can not apply to attend one of the other academies once they've enrolled.
I saw an anecdote in the USNA part of the forum where a person was rejected to USNA but accepted to USMMA and reapplied while at merchant marines and left to become a plebe at USNA. But it was probably a very isolated incident.
 
All I can do is laugh so hard at the fact that this thread got off topic from the very first post. :shake:
 
I saw an anecdote in the USNA part of the forum where a person was rejected to USNA but accepted to USMMA and reapplied while at merchant marines and left to become a plebe at USNA. But it was probably a very isolated incident.

There are common occurrences where a graduate of USMMA will graduate and move over to the Navy, but I don't recall someone at one academy, while enrolled, reapplying to one of the other academies. Then again, I guess anything is possible.

Runner, it isn't uncommon for a thread to go off track. Especially when the original poster leads it that way. But I don't think he or anyone else meant anything malice by it. However, you bring up a good point, and if anyone would like to chime in who didn't get accepted to the academy and would like to say where they will be attending school in the fall; as well as if they plan on reapplying to the academy(ies) for the next class, I'm sure the OP would really appreciate it. Later... mike...
 
There are common occurrences where a graduate of USMMA will graduate and move over to the Navy, but I don't recall someone at one academy, while enrolled, reapplying to one of the other academies. Then again, I guess anything is possible.

Runner, it isn't uncommon for a thread to go off track. Especially when the original poster leads it that way. But I don't think he or anyone else meant anything malice by it. However, you bring up a good point, and if anyone would like to chime in who didn't get accepted to the academy and would like to say where they will be attending school in the fall; as well as if they plan on reapplying to the academy(ies) for the next class, I'm sure the OP would really appreciate it. Later... mike...

Well, I personally think that the majority of the people rejected aren't as willing as I am to post that they got reject and are going somewhere else (there are a few though however I saw). The reason why I'm not at all "pissed" was because I knew from the beginning when I first started my application I absolutely knew I was going to get denied because I never had any outstanding GPA or SAT and I was right from the beginning.
Whatever, I can still become a pilot in the AF and THAT'S what's most important to me (becoming a pilot in the military so I can serve my country and be happy doing what I'm doing), I know some of you would disagree with me but that's just who I am.
 
I'll most likely be joining the Virginia Tech Corps of Cadets and the adjacent AFROTC program on a Type-2 scholarship; possibly re-applying, although I may just devote my four years to the Corps
 
Yeah, I wasn't accepted either... but I'm going to the Naval Academy! :smile:
 
CO43 - Congratulations! Maybe when you're a junio you could apply to be an exchange cadet to USAFA!
 
My son will be attending Tulane on a full (room and board as well) AROTC sholarship.
 
The reason why I'm not at all "pissed" was because I knew from the beginning when I first started my application I absolutely knew I was going to get denied because I never had any outstanding GPA or SAT and I was right from the beginning.
Whatever, I can still become a pilot in the AF and THAT'S what's most important to me (becoming a pilot in the military so I can serve my country and be happy doing what I'm doing), I know some of you would disagree with me but that's just who I am.
Being a pilot in the Air Force may be a personal goal of yours, but the most important thing should always be to become the best officer you can, regardless of source of commissioning. Less than 5% of the U.S. Air Force are pilots/navigators, and the competition for a UPT slot is even more competitive for ROTC cadets. If you do not let flying define what is most important to you then you will have a much more meaningful experience as you enter the process to acquire your commission.
 
My son got a TWE, despite having 3 congressional nominations AND attending summer seminar in 2009. Just a lot of good competition this year. He will be attending Daniel Webster in NH and playing soccer. He wants to check out the AFROTC when he gets there.
 
lald1990: Didn't your son apply for an AFROTC scholarship as a plan B?
 
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