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DS is reapplying for Class of 2015. He was waitlisted for 2014. In the meantime, he is on an ROTC scholarship and is in the Civil Engineering program at a state university. His college courses are:

MS 101-Foundation of Officership
MS 101L-Leadership Laboratory
CLSC 100-Classical World Greece & Rome
PSY 130-Critical Thinking
ENGR 101-Intro to Engineering Profession
MATH 123-Calclulus II
ENGL 100-Composition

His RD recommends that he switch a couple classes around so that he can take Chemistry this semester. If he doesn't take it in the fall then he will be less competitive than other college applicants. DS has to take the leadership courses required for ROTC. He has to take the Intro to Engineering. The academic advisor through in the Classical World Greece and Rome and Psycology classes just so he would be a full time student and DS wants to drop these courses so that he can take Chemistry. The problem: there are no longer any classes available in Chemistry.

Since his RD has already suggested that he take Chemistry and there are no classes available....what should DS do?

BTW....the state university is already impacted and with budget cuts, they are cutting classes.

Any advice would be appreciated.
 
The problem: there are no longer any classes available in Chemistry.
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Do you mean all sections are full? or they are not offering any sections?
I assume the former and if that is the case - tell him to go to class the first day and speak with the instructor. Kids will/do drop during the drop/add period (esp chem!). It's quite likely he will be able to schedule the class.
 
All sections are full. I think he will try to petition a class to see if he can get in.

Thank you for the suggestion.
 
Yep - this works alot. One problem might be with a full lab.
Honestly, most kids are not assertive/aggressive. The ones who are usually get what they want. :wink:
good luck
 
Most of the first year classes for engineering that I have seen include physics. Is that a possibility instead of chemistry?
 
There is a Physics class open...however, can that be taken in lieu of the Chemistry?

Here is a link of the USNA plebe year courses and I didn't see Physics in the curriculum:

http://www.usna.edu/acdean/majors/majors.html

But I do remember that Physics is an option but just don't know where I read that. DS wants to take whatever it is USNA suggests.

Thanks!
 
I'd imagine taking physics would be better than a history course. I mean when it comes down to it, if there is no chem it's between history and physics. I'd go with physics.

I'm a senior in HS and applying for class of 2015. However, I'm doing dual enrollment full time. My grades were decent freshman-junior year, but IMO they aren't competitive enough (high B's and low A's, with one or 2 c's). I figured a college schedule with all A's might give me a bit of a boost. Couldn't do chem, but already had it as an honors class sophomore year. So I'm taking physics with lab. I matched everything else (english, etc.) minus the military classes.
 
Navy616 said:
DS wants to take whatever it is USNA suggests.
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I would agree that whatever the USNA suggests is a good idea. However, I believe most civilian college engineering programs require physics during the first year. Also the NROTC (Plan B?) scholarship program requires all its awardees to take physics during college.
https://www.nrotc.navy.mil/acad_requirements.aspx
If you can't get into Chemistry, I think Physics might be a good alternative.
 
Physics is required for 3/C mids. If you can't take Chem, Physics is a good viable alternative.
 
usna1985 said:
Physics is required for 3/C mids. If you can't take Chem, Physics is a good viable alternative.
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Thank you USNA1985. We are hoping he can get into a Chem class but will take Physics as a back up. He will then drop the Classical Greece and Rome and Psychology.

In your opinion, when his application reaches the board and they are comparing his college courses (with the Physics) with another college applicant with the chemistry...will the the applicant with the chemistry have the more competitive looking course load?
 
Navy616 said:
will the the applicant with the chemistry have the more competitive looking course load?
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I go with chemistry, with everything else being exactly equal, which, of course, it won't. Many many years ago, a Candidate Guidance Officer (actual) told me that chemistry was the single best indicator of how one would perform at USNA and that it was the only course requirement that was unwaivable.
 
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