Apparently the forum is not going to enforce their own requests and continue to allow undue personal attacks such as this:
Hey, little kid, go back to your toys and try to refrain from your feeble attempts at amateur psychology. You obviously know absolutely nothing whatsoever about my demeanor. Don’t they teach you anything about respect or decorum at Colorado Springs? A little advice. Most intelligent people don’t jump into the middle of a conversation about which they obviously know nothing.
Blaze, sorry you were duped. This sort of thing should never happen on a forum such as this.
Sorry. Nope. You are wrong. If it were only so simple, Pima could probably regain some of his credibility. Don’t think it has happened since the AF version of the F-4 Phantom and they were both, Pima, correct me if I am wrong, real pilots. Pardon me for having to differentiate between ‘implied’ pilots and ‘real’ pilots on this thread.
Don’t you think that interjecting your now obviously totally irrelevant admissions portrait below into the discussion is both beside the point and perhaps even misleading?
But did the pilot applicants? Perhaps they had to scrape the bottom of the barrel a little deeper for you guys. Hopefully no one wanting to be a pilot was duped by this small attempt to deceive.
Why do you “have to ask”? We are discussing your credibility. I don’t see any questions that mine is at stake. Nor did I realize this was an ‘unzip, you show me yours and I’ll show you mine’ type of discussion. Or is this something perhaps peculiar to the method F-15 ‘flyers’ utilize to settle differences? If you are truly interested, I think you can dig back through this forum and find out a lot more about me than I ever intended to disclose. And probably enough to dissuade you in your attempt to get me to unzip.
‘Drivers’ are pilots and ‘jocks’ are pilots. Never seen a horse race yet that the jockey didn’t have the reins and whip nor one with a ‘cojockey’ sitting on the back twisting dials and punching buttons. Nor any type of vehicle where the ‘driver’ did not have control of the steering wheel, gear shift, throttle, brakes, etc. Sorry.
Hey, bullet, instead of trying to convince us ignorant unwashed masses of what you are, why don’t you sanitize your identification from all your posts on this thread where you have been defending yourself and stick them up on your RR wall? No, better yet, hang them by the bar. And send us the ensuing comments. Or, with your permission, I will send it to my son and he can do the same at Oceana. Nevermind, Navy NFOs do not deserve the implied comparison.
Yes, I am very proud of the fact that I am a Naval Aviator. The application process was more selective and the training more intense, the opportunity for failure much greater. No one was ever forced to 'go' pilot after washing out of WSO/NFO school. The pilot has one additional responsibility, a huge responsibility, which is the safety of his crew and returning them safely to deck. Most flight crews understand and respect this. It is a responsibility that honestly still causes me to occassionally wake up in a cold sweat 20 year later. Note that bullet's 'resume' includes mission commander time but no aircraft commander time. There is a reason. Great teamwork, as Pima mentions, is a given. Getting that aircraft back aboard a pitching wet deck at night is a huge additional responsibility, most primarily that of the pilot. There is a difference and in the Navy we all respect it. Probably also more in the AF than Bullet would allow us to think.
hornetguy said:Bullet, why stoop down to the level of a bitter old man?
Hey, little kid, go back to your toys and try to refrain from your feeble attempts at amateur psychology. You obviously know absolutely nothing whatsoever about my demeanor. Don’t they teach you anything about respect or decorum at Colorado Springs? A little advice. Most intelligent people don’t jump into the middle of a conversation about which they obviously know nothing.
csBlaZe said:Yo Bullet, I totally believed you were an Eagle drive(r) from the start.
Blaze, sorry you were duped. This sort of thing should never happen on a forum such as this.
TheCommissioner said:Please correct me if I am wrong here, but in aircraft with a two-person crew, isn't the WSO really a co-pilot? Doesn't the WSO have access to controls and instruments, not to mention the training necessary to fly and land the aircraft if the pilot becomes incapacitated?
Sorry. Nope. You are wrong. If it were only so simple, Pima could probably regain some of his credibility. Don’t think it has happened since the AF version of the F-4 Phantom and they were both, Pima, correct me if I am wrong, real pilots. Pardon me for having to differentiate between ‘implied’ pilots and ‘real’ pilots on this thread.
Pima said:I think I have the expereince and the credentials to accurately answer their questions.
Don’t you think that interjecting your now obviously totally irrelevant admissions portrait below into the discussion is both beside the point and perhaps even misleading?
Pima said:Trust me, I had semesters that would have made the guys in the Delta House (the fraternity from Animal House) proud!
But did the pilot applicants? Perhaps they had to scrape the bottom of the barrel a little deeper for you guys. Hopefully no one wanting to be a pilot was duped by this small attempt to deceive.
Pima said:I have to ask, What did you fly?
Why do you “have to ask”? We are discussing your credibility. I don’t see any questions that mine is at stake. Nor did I realize this was an ‘unzip, you show me yours and I’ll show you mine’ type of discussion. Or is this something perhaps peculiar to the method F-15 ‘flyers’ utilize to settle differences? If you are truly interested, I think you can dig back through this forum and find out a lot more about me than I ever intended to disclose. And probably enough to dissuade you in your attempt to get me to unzip.
‘Drivers’ are pilots and ‘jocks’ are pilots. Never seen a horse race yet that the jockey didn’t have the reins and whip nor one with a ‘cojockey’ sitting on the back twisting dials and punching buttons. Nor any type of vehicle where the ‘driver’ did not have control of the steering wheel, gear shift, throttle, brakes, etc. Sorry.
Hey, bullet, instead of trying to convince us ignorant unwashed masses of what you are, why don’t you sanitize your identification from all your posts on this thread where you have been defending yourself and stick them up on your RR wall? No, better yet, hang them by the bar. And send us the ensuing comments. Or, with your permission, I will send it to my son and he can do the same at Oceana. Nevermind, Navy NFOs do not deserve the implied comparison.
Yes, I am very proud of the fact that I am a Naval Aviator. The application process was more selective and the training more intense, the opportunity for failure much greater. No one was ever forced to 'go' pilot after washing out of WSO/NFO school. The pilot has one additional responsibility, a huge responsibility, which is the safety of his crew and returning them safely to deck. Most flight crews understand and respect this. It is a responsibility that honestly still causes me to occassionally wake up in a cold sweat 20 year later. Note that bullet's 'resume' includes mission commander time but no aircraft commander time. There is a reason. Great teamwork, as Pima mentions, is a given. Getting that aircraft back aboard a pitching wet deck at night is a huge additional responsibility, most primarily that of the pilot. There is a difference and in the Navy we all respect it. Probably also more in the AF than Bullet would allow us to think.
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