Reapplying Questions

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HiMyNameisNick

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1. What is the advantage of reapplying? unless I manage to get my college GPA up higher than my high school GPA my application won't be any better next year. Its not like I can get my Eagle Scout again, or do Boys state again. I aced my CFA(maxed pull ups/pushups/crunches and 5:48mi). And I am extremely involved in EC's.

2. If I go away to college, I will be atleast a 12 hour drive from home. Will by BGO and MOC change to where I go to college? or will I have to drive back for my interviews.

3. Will I need to write a completely different personal essay?

4. Will I need a college transcript sent? and if yes, I won't have a transcript untill the first semester ends, does this mean I cannot complete my application till next january?
 
What is the advantage of reapplying? unless I manage to get my college GPA up higher than my high school GPA my application won't be any better next year. Its not like I can get my Eagle Scout again, or do Boys state again. I aced my CFA(maxed pull ups/pushups/crunches and 5:48mi). And I am extremely involved in EC's.
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USNA doesn't equate HS GPA to College GPA. As in previous postings, your College GPA normally trumps HS GPA and SAT/ACT scores because you are ACTUALLY in college. Also, contact your RD from admissions in the summer (when things calm down a bit) to see what areas you need to improve in (if any) and then improve them!

If I go away to college, I will be at least a 12 hour drive from home. Will by BGO and MOC change to where I go to college? or will I have to drive back for my interviews.
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Your BGO will change and unless you change your residence (I didn't change mine), your Congressional District and State will remain the same. I am not sure what your Senator/Congressman may require (if you go to an out-of-state or out-of-town college) for an interview, but the key is to work out a solution with the SA coordinators. I went to an in-state school, so I just interviewed at a different location for my Senators (there were 4 total interviewing sites) when I applied from HS; my Congressman's staff allowed me to do a phone interview from college; this is why I say to work with the staffs.

Will I need to write a completely different personal essay?
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Yes. On a site note, your DODMERB is good for two-years, so you shouldn't have to do a medical evaluation.

Will I need a college transcript sent? and if yes, I won't have a transcript untill the first semester ends, does this mean I cannot complete my application till next january?
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Yes. You can complete your entire application, but it won't be evaluated until your first semester grades are in.
 
Read forum sticky note "re-applying". Now read it, and read it again. Follow USNA web site instructions and you will be fine.

If you decide to re-apply, fantastic and congratulations, but understand your plan B was just promoted to plan A.

Good luck in your decision.
 
Your BGO will change
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Actually, your BGO typically will NOT change. I was reassigned all of my reapplying students this year and all of them attended college out of town, so to speak. I did my interviews during the summer, while they were still here.

If you WANT to have a new BGO, that can easily be arranged and there are some reasons for doing so -- a "fresh" evaluation and maybe someone closer to where you now live.

MOCs are pretty flexible with college students and will typically do interviews by phone if you can't get back to the district.

As for reapplying and your GPA . . . the number one reason people are turned down is academics. The best way to demonstrate you can succeed in college is to do so. Doing so will trump SATs and h.s. grades/class rank.

Your college class rank isn't important b/c there are so many students taking so many courses. What matters to USNA is that you get As in college Calc, Chem, etc.
 
usna1985 said:
Actually, your BGO typically will NOT change. I was reassigned all of my reapplying students this year and all of them attended college out of town, so to speak. I did my interviews during the summer, while they were still here.

If you WANT to have a new BGO, that can easily be arranged and there are some reasons for doing so -- a "fresh" evaluation and maybe someone closer to where you now live.

MOCs are pretty flexible with college students and will typically do interviews by phone if you can't get back to the district.

As for reapplying and your GPA . . . the number one reason people are turned down is academics. The best way to demonstrate you can succeed in college is to do so. Doing so will trump SATs and h.s. grades/class rank.

Your college class rank isn't important b/c there are so many students taking so many courses. What matters to USNA is that you get As in college Calc, Chem, etc.
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I already have A's in AP chem AP calc AP physics AP english AP government and AP U.S. history. I won't be repeating those course my freshman year. I plan to move ahead to the next level classes. Or should I repeat them freshman year so that I get a higher GPA thus better chances of being accepted to USNA?
 
USNA has said there is no benefit to retaking your SATs. The reason is that they are used as a predictor of your success in college. Your actual grades in college are a better "predictor."

You should move to the next level of classes in college. Don't retake the same level of courses you took h.s., unless you did very poorly, which you obviously didn't.

Of note, for those who did poorly academically in h.s. (not referring to the OP on this thread), prep school may make sense. You need to evaluate why you did poorly -- and whether prep school could help you overcome those issues.

Finally, for all those considering reapplying, PLEASE consult your RD in June/July re your packet. He or she is in the best position to advise you what kept you from the BFE and what you can do to address it. For most, it's academics. However, there are some for whom it may be leadership, athletics, poor teacher evals, etc. Best to find out rather than guess. If you don't want to call the RD, your BGO can do it for you. As noted, please WAIT until June or July -- right now, they're swamped and you won't get much if any of their time.
 
In the class profile for the class of 2014 it lists 69 in the class as having some college background. Of that group I'm sure that some are applying for the fisrt time and other are reapplying. Does anyone have an idea what size the candidate pool was for this group?
 
5 quick points for some perspective ...

1. Your academics would appear to be fine. Very fine indeed. That's not the issue, it would seem.

2. It may have been as simple as politics and/or that as strong as you are? Someone(s) in your MOC district and state were notably stronger. Remember ...this time around, your competition will be totally different.

3. You will be stronger by one significant factor. You are persistant, as evidenced by your reapplication. That will be significant, maybe huge.

4. You'll not have letters from your junior teachers. I speculate here, but I wonder if many great, unsuccessful 3Q3e candidates ...as you appear to have been ... are trumped by teacher evals, either poor, simplistic ones from yours and/or spectacular, detailed ones from your otherwise equally solid competition.

5. It just may be that there were too many good candidates in your season.

Were I you, I'd do the research suggested, then give it another go.

btw, if you've followed this the past 2 years in particular, you are not alone in a notable number of really great candidates not getting a shot. While not the sole reason, you simply may not be among the "priority" group needs being targeted by USNA ...and the simple truth is that when those are collectively gathered, there are significantly fewer spots for significantly more qualified candidates. The numbers may tell the story, but when it is you who may pay the price, well, it gets very personal, doesn't it. It all sounds very progressive until the reality exposes the ... reality.
 
Whistle Pig said:
5 quick points for some perspective ...

1. Your academics would appear to be fine. Very fine indeed. That's not the issue, it would seem.

2. It may have been as simple as politics and/or that as strong as you are? Someone(s) in your MOC district and state were notably stronger. Remember ...this time around, your competition will be totally different.

3. You will be stronger by one significant factor. You are persistant, as evidenced by your reapplication. That will be significant, maybe huge.

4. You'll not have letters from your junior teachers. I speculate here, but I wonder if many great, unsuccessful 3Q3e candidates ...as you appear to have been ... are trumped by teacher evals, either poor, simplistic ones from yours and/or spectacular, detailed ones from your otherwise equally solid competition.

5. It just may be that there were too many good candidates in your season.

Were I you, I'd do the research suggested, then give it another go.

btw, if you've followed this the past 2 years in particular, you are not alone in a notable number of really great candidates not getting a shot. While not the sole reason, you simply may not be among the "priority" group needs being targeted by USNA ...and the simple truth is that when those are collectively gathered, there are significantly fewer spots for significantly more qualified candidates. The numbers may tell the story, but when it is you who may pay the price, well, it gets very personal, doesn't it. It all sounds very progressive until the reality exposes the ... reality.
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I appreciate your response very much, I find it very helpful.

Im trying to keep my eyes on the goal: officer in the Marine Corps. USNA may not take me, and NROTC may not either. But then I will try PLC or OCS. I know I've got what it takes, and getting rejected just pisses me off and makes me want to become the best officer I can be by another route. A 'prove them wrong' sort of thing. I have the dream and I have the will, it just costs more money to get there without USNA.
 
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