Wireless Router in Barracks Rooms

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My son wants to get an iPhone. The data use cost for iPhone is dependent on whether an internet wireless connection is available. If available, the data cost is much less as the3g network is not used.

I have read elsewhere on this forum that cadets can install wireless networks for access to the internet through the USMA wired network (but not the Secure side of the USMA's network).

I would like to hear from someone who has done it to find out the hoops if any.

Thanks.
 
I can't say for sure, but based on the general Army IA/IS policies, my guess would be no.
 
One thing that might be allowed is an AT&T 3G Micro-cell. I have one in my house and it works great.

Also, I use my iPhone like a fiend. I've yet to go over my data limit on 3G.
 
My son wants to get an iPhone. The data use cost for iPhone is dependent on whether an internet wireless connection is available. If available, the data cost is much less as the3g network is not used.

I have read elsewhere on this forum that cadets can install wireless networks for access to the internet through the USMA wired network (but not the Secure side of the USMA's network).

I would like to hear from someone who has done it to find out the hoops if any.

Thanks.

I haven't personally done it yet but my phone constantly picks up wireless signals from other rooms. It is possible to set up a wireless modem. I will be doing it in the future since it seems to solve the lack of signal for cell phones in the baracks.
 
One thing that might be allowed is an AT&T 3G Micro-cell. I have one in my house and it works great.

Also, I use my iPhone like a fiend. I've yet to go over my data limit on 3G.

Using the microcell has no effect on your wireless usage limits, as it still uses the AT&T 3G data network.

Adding a wi-fi router is completely different, as it does not use the 3G network, only the 802.11 link (which ultimately is connected to a landline internet connection), thus not using the 3G network data.
 
The official answer from the post Information Systems people (Goldcoats) would be "No". It's a pain to set up and leaves security holes (there is only one network- the secure one).
 
Using the microcell has no effect on your wireless usage limits, as it still uses the AT&T 3G data network.

Adding a wi-fi router is completely different, as it does not use the 3G network, only the 802.11 link (which ultimately is connected to a landline internet connection), thus not using the 3G network data.

Yes, -----, we are all aware of what a router is and what it does. Those are the very reasons that Army net managers no longer allow them on the networks. Huge security risk.

A micro-cell won't solve his data problem. It will however, eliminate signal problems which can be an issue in the barracks. Some talk time is free on the micro-cell, depending on your plan.

The question is, how much does he really need to worry? SMS messages don't count against your data total. Only MMS messages. Plus his barracks room will have at least two fully functioning computers. It's the one place he WON'T need his iPhone for heavy data use. Unless he's using it to look at things that are blocked on the network :wink:
 
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Yes, -------, we are all aware of what a router is and what it does.

Apparently you don't, -------, as you answered a question from the OP about data usage/wireless router with an off-the-topic answer about an "AT&T Microcell."
 
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Apparently you don't, -----, as you answered a question from the OP about data usage/wireless router with an off-the-topic answer about an "AT&T Microcell."

Awww, don't get all cranky because you couldn't keep up with the conversation, Luigi. You'll note that it was in a separate post, not offered as a replacement for the router's functionality (because anything with that functionality isn't allowed on a DA network unless it's installed and run by the net managers). It was merely offered as something he COULD POTENTIALLY hook up, provided IA/IO policy doesn't prohibit it (odds are that it will). It would allow the phone to actually send/receive data at decent speeds in the barracks because, as I said, you really have to try to exceed your data limit.

Those with time in the military tend to know those things. Just sayin'
 
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Awww, don't get all cranky because you couldn't keep up with the conversation, Luigi. You'll note that it was in a separate post, not offered as a replacement for the router's functionality (because anything with that functionality isn't allowed on a DA network unless it's installed and run by the net managers). It was merely offered as something he COULD POTENTIALLY hook up, provided IA/IO policy doesn't prohibit it (odds are that it will). It would allow the phone to actually send/receive data at decent speeds in the barracks because, as I said, you really have to try to exceed your data limit.

Those with time in the military tend to know those things. Just sayin'

Aww scoutpilot, don't get too upset because you couldn't keep up and went completely off topic with a post that had nothing to do with the OP's question about data usage and wireless routers.

Those in the wireless communications field tend to know a little more about these things than those in the military.

Just sayin'.
 
As an iPhone user, I think it will be beneficial for your DS to get the data-enabled version. While it might not work in the barracks, it can be very useful while traveling, etc.
 
My roommate from this past semester has an iPhone and iPad and he connected a wireless router to the wired internet cable provided in the room. I was also able to use it for my Android phone and we both used wifi on our issued laptops.
 
My roommate from this past semester has an iPhone and iPad and he connected a wireless router to the wired internet cable provided in the room. I was also able to use it for my Android phone and we both used wifi on our issued laptops.

The question is, was it authorized? Did you have it signed off by Goldcoats? You can receive some truly stiff penalties in the Army for willfully violating network security (IA/IS) policies, up to and including the suspension or revocation of your security clearance. I'm not suggesting or insinuating that you DIDN'T have permission, simply asking. If you did get permission, that's great news for the OP.

Once upon a time, people used to connect unauthorized laptops (Macs) to the network. Goldcoats (are they even called that anymore?) found them on the network and the results were unfriendly.
 
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