cooneymike
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I have a situation I am trying to find the answer to and could use any direction from anyone here who knows anything of value.
I was prior enlisted and didn't graduate from the academy. After I resigned I completed my service and went to civilian college. After college I re-upped into the National Guard. My academy time counted as good years towards retirement, which was a surprise for me because I always thought academy time didn't count but the G1 showed me the regs and it all seemed to check out, so over night I picked up a few extra good years. Apparently everyone in the world (including anyone reading this site) knew this but me.
After a few years drilling I went to OCS, got commissioned in 1997 and have been serving ever since including two tours overseas.
This August, while awaiting my '20 year letter,' I instead get a letter from the G1 (new state and command) informing me that in fact my academy time doesn't count towards retirement anymore. It would have, had I not gone to OCS, but by getting commissioned those years no longer count. I can get them to point to some regulations that seem to say academy time does not count for officers but there is a clear implication it means commissioned at the academy, I think. I can't find any authority to delete previously awarded and validated good years, except it may have already happened. I've asked the question if I resign my commission will I get the years back, and everyone seems to think that's the case, but no one wants to move past the uncomfortable silence of that moment. I would do it to get the good years back, I still retire at my highest rank, I'd just rather not since I'm physically in top shape and no where near done.
Has anyone seen anything like this before? I know several of the guys who got out around the time I did went on to military careers of one type or another but I've long since lost track of them and wouldn't want to endanger any of their retirements either.
Thanks if you know anything.
I was prior enlisted and didn't graduate from the academy. After I resigned I completed my service and went to civilian college. After college I re-upped into the National Guard. My academy time counted as good years towards retirement, which was a surprise for me because I always thought academy time didn't count but the G1 showed me the regs and it all seemed to check out, so over night I picked up a few extra good years. Apparently everyone in the world (including anyone reading this site) knew this but me.
After a few years drilling I went to OCS, got commissioned in 1997 and have been serving ever since including two tours overseas.
This August, while awaiting my '20 year letter,' I instead get a letter from the G1 (new state and command) informing me that in fact my academy time doesn't count towards retirement anymore. It would have, had I not gone to OCS, but by getting commissioned those years no longer count. I can get them to point to some regulations that seem to say academy time does not count for officers but there is a clear implication it means commissioned at the academy, I think. I can't find any authority to delete previously awarded and validated good years, except it may have already happened. I've asked the question if I resign my commission will I get the years back, and everyone seems to think that's the case, but no one wants to move past the uncomfortable silence of that moment. I would do it to get the good years back, I still retire at my highest rank, I'd just rather not since I'm physically in top shape and no where near done.
Has anyone seen anything like this before? I know several of the guys who got out around the time I did went on to military careers of one type or another but I've long since lost track of them and wouldn't want to endanger any of their retirements either.
Thanks if you know anything.