How qualified do you have to be? And GPA Q's.

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So, I want to hear if any of you guys have heard of candidates who seemed unqualified get into USNA. Most people that get in seem to be way over the top.

Also, when talking about GPA, what GPA do people on this forum use most? I don't know my weighted or unweighted, so I go by cumulative. Also, I heard USNA cares more about class rank anyway.
 
So, I want to hear if any of you guys have heard of candidates who seemed unqualified get into USNA. Most people that get in seem to be way over the top.

Also, when talking about GPA, what GPA do people on this forum use most? I don't know my weighted or unweighted, so I go by cumulative. Also, I heard USNA cares more about class rank anyway.


Generally, if one is academically disqualified, yet they are medically/physically qualiified, AND if they have very strong leadership/athletics they are considered for NAPS. You cannot get into the academy if you are deemed academically disqualified (at least that's my understanding). Now, I suggest looking at the average profile of people who get in, not comparing yourself to the top (the strong you are the better chance at admission you have).

Yes, class rank is much more important than GPA. They can easily compare you to your peers by utilizing class rank.

If you don't mind me asking, what do your stats look like?
 
If you don't mind me asking, does the Academy view Martial Arts/Boxing as viable options in regards to Sports? I can only assume so, I mean there is a Boxing Team, a Judo Team, and a Traditional Karate Team - will it help on my resume?
 
If you don't mind me asking, does the Academy view Martial Arts/Boxing as viable options in regards to Sports? I can only assume so, I mean there is a Boxing Team, a Judo Team, and a Traditional Karate Team - will it help on my resume?

Yes.
 
With regards to under/overqualified candidates getting into the academy, a lot of it has to due with where you're from. I come from a district with exceptional school systems and high academy interest, so most of our appointments have stellar academic records. In other parts of the country as long as you are above the minimums, you're essentially in.
 
With regards to under/overqualified candidates getting into the academy, a lot of it has to due with where you're from. I come from a district with exceptional school systems and high academy interest, so most of our appointments have stellar academic records. In other parts of the country as long as you are above the minimums, you're essentially in.

I'd agree with the gist, but I wouldn't say a candidate from a less competitive area is "under qualified." I'm pretty certain that some of the less competitive areas have "stellar academic records."
 
I'd agree with the gist, but I wouldn't say a candidate from a less competitive area is "under qualified." I'm pretty certain that some of the less competitive areas have "stellar academic records."

I thought "under qualified" was slightly less problematic wording than the original post's "unqualified," and I am sure that many of those from less competitive areas do have fantastic academic records.

What I should have said was that those from less competitive areas of the country are more likely to face fewer challenges with regards to a need for a high GPA/SAT/ACT etc. in receiving an appointment than a candidate from an area that has greater academy interest/competition.
 
I'd agree with the gist, but I wouldn't say a candidate from a less competitive area is "under qualified." I'm pretty certain that some of the less competitive areas have "stellar academic records."

Agreed. Wyoming has spawned Rhodes Scholars. And Virginia has spawned many appointees who failed to make it.

Yes, generally there are more and less competitive states and congressional districts. And over the seasons, that might well lend some appropriate generalizations. But "under qualified" isn't one of those, imo.

And the real problem is that for most candidates, generalizations are personally meaningless. Yours might be the year that you're competing for the nom against that Rhodes Scholar. Or the 5 Rhodes Scholars ahead of you in the MOC's nom list are all headed to Harvard or medically unable to perform.

You see, in any given admission year, the best generalization is simply this ...
"You never know ... unless you apply."

Beyond assessing one's qualifications against a current collective class profile, there's not much value in fretting about this stuff.
 
Generally, if one is academically disqualified, yet they are medically/physically qualiified, AND if they have very strong leadership/athletics they are considered for NAPS. You cannot get into the academy if you are deemed academically disqualified (at least that's my understanding). Now, I suggest looking at the average profile of people who get in, not comparing yourself to the top (the strong you are the better chance at admission you have).

Yes, class rank is much more important than GPA. They can easily compare you to your peers by utilizing class rank.

If you don't mind me asking, what do your stats look like?

Class rank: (Freshman year) 23 or 26 out of 463
Cumulative GPA: (Freshman year) 4.571

That is only grades, and stats from last year, because our stats haven't been updated yet this year.

Is it possible to be academically qualified but not physically qualified and get in? Most cases I've heard of are of athletic people with lower grades who get into NAPS.
 
I thought "under qualified" was slightly less problematic wording than the original post's "unqualified," and I am sure that many of those from less competitive areas do have fantastic academic records.

What I should have said was that those from less competitive areas of the country are more likely to face fewer challenges with regards to a need for a high GPA/SAT/ACT etc. in receiving an appointment than a candidate from an area that has greater academy interest/competition.

I am probably one of the few people here who recognizes your forum name haha
 
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