To the ROTC Class of 2017

NorwichDad

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Your priority now is to finish High School Strong. Complete your varsity sports, clubs and most important, your high school classes strong. You should also start working out a few times a week to prepare your self for ROTC. Running, sittups and pushups should be part of your routine. Join a gym if you can and lift. Do not overdo it initially. Slowly work into a good program. PT tests will be very important in college. Start now if you can. The time you put in will pay off next year.

Best of luck to you all.
 
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Great advice! I keep telling my DS this everyday! His first choice is Westpoint, and then ROTC....but either way all the candidates need to be ready in advance, and not wait for the programs to whip their butts into shape!
 
Happy New Year to you too

My DS was skinny kid in High School. Around Junior Year he joined a gym. A couple of law enforcement officers there took him under their wing. They showed him the right way to train. (Learn from somebody who knows) He asked them if he could buy them lunch. They told him instead to help others with what they showed him. Later he would have a group at Norwich University he took to the gym everyday.
DS always overmaxed his PT scores in college. That and good grades opened many opportunities. Start now, the correct way. One less thing you will have to worry about going to college. It will be a good habit that will keep in you in shape and out of trouble.
 
Another point for those who have earned a scholarship:

This forum seems to have a few cases every year where scholarships have been lost due to legal trouble and minor infractions as a result of silly decisions prior to reporting to the unit. Temptations during your final semester of senior year abound: parties, proms, senior pranks, etc.

Be smart - its not worth jeapordizing your scholarship.
 
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+1 to NorwichDad's comments. My DS was a wrestler in high school and although he loved working out with the team he would never do anything more than that. As he prepared for NROTC MO PFT he started going to the YMCA to work on his pullups and otherwise prepare (it's only 2 doors away... I still don't understand why he wouldn't do this earlier in life :confused:). He decided he liked it, especially as he marked his progress, and kept up with it over the summer to prepare for his first PFT. He scored a 296 on his initial NROTC MO PFT and has never been lower than that since. While I'm sure some MIDN in his unit are slacking off over the winter break, he is keeping at it and is doing a ruck run even as I type this. If you do it all the time, although you push yourself hard, it will never become a difficult burden. Good luck to all the new prospective Midshipmen and Cadets. :thumb:
 
Another point for those who have earned a scholarship:

This forum seems to have a few cases every year where scholarships have been lost due to legal trouble and minor infractions as a result of silly decisions prior to reporting to the unit. There have been stories of scholarships lost due to minor (or major) legal trouble prior to reporting to your unit. Temptations during your final semester of senior year abound: parties, proms, senior pranks, etc.

Be smart - its not worth jeapordizing your scholarship.

Really good point. Understand that even upon commissioning even simple infractions are not acceptable. Understandable because it is not about taking care of yourself but you are then someone responsible for other service men and women. Good Habits - Start Now - It is worth it!
 
I wrote this about a year ago, thought I would re-post. Last time the discussion veered a little off track, my intention was just to make sure all the new cadets go into the program with eyes wide open.

We are in a time right now when many applicants have heard good news that they have received a scholarship offer, and many others are still waiting for the news. This is a time of great excitement and joy for those that hear the good news, a chance to become an officer in the military and tuition paid for at the same time, who wouldn't be excited.

After the excitement fades the reality starts to set in, how will this fit in with my classes, how much time does it take up, can I handle the extra load. All of these are questions every applicant should ask themselves.

ROTC of every branch is getting tighter, the need is not as great and the possibility of being cut is getting higher.

Applicants and recipients need to be aware that there is no guarantees in ROTC. Cadets are being cut from every branch for many reasons. Mess up in any way, fail a PT Test, miss weight limits, dip below the grade minimum and you can be cut. Some services such as the Navy have taken enlistment off the table as an option to repay the scholarship which means you will be on the hook for every dime. Some cases will seem unfair and will be of no fault of the cadet.

Cadets that graduated two, three years ago or before had the benefit of a military that was not meeting its goals. These cadets could miss step and still be commissioned, not so anymore. Get a MIP, a DUI, get into a fight at a local bar or club, you will be shown the door quickly and left with the bill.

My point to all this is the new cadets coming up need to be careful and smart, make good choices and be aware that this great opportunity could come crashing down around them.

A lot of applicants will select schools that they would not have attended if they had to pay the tuition, they may select private or out of state schools with higher tuition. Selecting these schools are fine as long as everything goes as planned. Be aware of the costs, realize that if something happens you could be stuck paying that tuition. Think of the scholarship as a loan given to you to attend school, the prize is that you do not have to pay the loan back if you commission after graduation, if you don't, the loan comes due. Select schools that you can afford if the scholarship is lost, always keep in mind the money you may need to pay back, save your money. Parents, don't go out and buy that new boat with the kids college money because they now have a scholarship, keep it in the bank just in case then buy the boat when they commission. You don't want to be in the situation where in the last semester you are dropped and have a $150,000. plus bill due.

The AFROTC has had this issue for a long time due to the fact the cadet needs to be accepted to SFT to continue, they may not have to pay back what has been paid to that point but they will not receive any more money.

NROTC can remove cadets right up to the point of Commissioning for anything from missing weight, fail PT, and many other reasons,

AROTC is the same way, fail in any area and your out. If you happen to fall below the required GPA in a semester you'll be on probation and will have to pay that semesters tuition out of your pocket, same with not passing the APFT.

ROTC is not easy, it takes time and dedication, do not go into it with out really thinking hard.

Remember every cadet has the first year to test drive ROTC, if they drop that year they have no obligation. If you are struggling at the end of the first year think hard about returning, start your second year and your obligation starts including pay back.

ROTC is a great program and opportunity, I have two sons' that were on scholarship and I have had this talk with both of them. The older son commissioned last spring; I still talk to the younger son about this because one miss step and it all goes away.

Every applicant has the best on intentions and full of confidence, just be honest with yourself and be aware that getting the scholarship is just the first phase, your journey is just beginning and it can be a bumpy ride. Work hard, keep your focus on your school work and learn everything you can as you progress through the program.

Good luck to every cadet whether they are on scholarship or not.
Since I wrote this my son as well as others like Norwich Dad’s son have graduated and moved on to their training and units. For all of you that will start school next year just remember, life does not get any easier when you graduate. The work gets harder and the training more intense, you will work harder then you ever did in school but the rewards will be great. Norwich Dad’s son has completed Infantry BOLC and Ranger School, no easy task. This new life you have all chosen will test you everyday. I wish continued success to those who have graduated and best of luck to those just starting their journey.
 
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