Multiple Nominations
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Christcorp
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1. Each of those nominations you received, puts you on a list of 10 names, and that list has 1 guaranteed appointment coming from that list. So in your case, you have 2 chances of receiving an appointment because you are on 2 lists.
2. If however, the senator/representative ranks that list in any of 2 ways, (Which most senators/representative DON'T Rank their list), then unless you are the #1 on that list, you won't receive an appointment unless all those ranked ahead of you somehow become disqualified or turn down the appointment.
3. If the senator/representative doesn't rank the list, then the academy will choose from that list you are on, based on who they believe (Based on total score of their application), the one to receive the appointment. So basically; you could be on 10 lists, but unless you are the BEST on that list, you won't receive an appointment.
4. For all those who have nominations and don't receive an appointment based on the guaranteed slot from that list as I mentioned earlier, you will be placed on a "NATIONAL" list. On that list, it doesn't matter if you have 1 nomination or 10 nominations. Your name is on the list only once. The difference however is that between 1/3 and 1/2 of all appointments actually come from this "National" list. Therefor, your chances may actually go up compared to who you are competing against.
And that is what really matters. "WHO IS YOUR COMPETITION"? In theory, 2 nominations give you 2 chances, "Outside of the national list", to receive an appointment. But you could be #10 on each of those lists. The other 9 on each list could have so much better of an application. On the other hand, you could be the 2nd best in your district/state applying, and if the #1 accepts an appointment from one of the nomination lists, that would give you a great chance of getting the appointment from the other list. Best of luck.
2. If however, the senator/representative ranks that list in any of 2 ways, (Which most senators/representative DON'T Rank their list), then unless you are the #1 on that list, you won't receive an appointment unless all those ranked ahead of you somehow become disqualified or turn down the appointment.
3. If the senator/representative doesn't rank the list, then the academy will choose from that list you are on, based on who they believe (Based on total score of their application), the one to receive the appointment. So basically; you could be on 10 lists, but unless you are the BEST on that list, you won't receive an appointment.
4. For all those who have nominations and don't receive an appointment based on the guaranteed slot from that list as I mentioned earlier, you will be placed on a "NATIONAL" list. On that list, it doesn't matter if you have 1 nomination or 10 nominations. Your name is on the list only once. The difference however is that between 1/3 and 1/2 of all appointments actually come from this "National" list. Therefor, your chances may actually go up compared to who you are competing against.
And that is what really matters. "WHO IS YOUR COMPETITION"? In theory, 2 nominations give you 2 chances, "Outside of the national list", to receive an appointment. But you could be #10 on each of those lists. The other 9 on each list could have so much better of an application. On the other hand, you could be the 2nd best in your district/state applying, and if the #1 accepts an appointment from one of the nomination lists, that would give you a great chance of getting the appointment from the other list. Best of luck.
warrior101
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Ok, so I have a related question. I have two nominations from Virginia- one from my senator and one from my congressman. First off, I am a little confused because I thought MOCs talked and thus two nominations in competitive states like VA didn't happen. Second, neither ranked their candidates and don't have a principal nominee, but they said 7 or 8 of their nominees usually get appointments. How does this work? Thanks for your time.
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I'm from Minnesota (less competitive than VA) but I was also under the impression that MOCs would communicate with each other when giving out nominations.
leto8178
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I am from MN as well. Here in Minnesota, as far as I have heard, they try their best not to double up nominations between house and senate in OUR state. However, there are VARIOUS different ways you can be nominated beyond those two. Also to address the other post - if you were put on an unranked slate, only one of the candidates off of the unranked slate will be picked up by the academy initially, then the rest will be sent to the national pool. If your representative had 7 or 8 getting sent, only one of those were directly from their slate, and the rest were pulled by the academy from the national pool.
Christcorp
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Senators/Representative can talk if they want to. But they are free to nominate anyone they want to. Doesn't matter if they are in a competitive state or not. Doesn't matter if an individual already has 3 other nominations. If the senator/representative wants to nominate them, they are free to do so.
As for 7-8 on a slate eventually receiving appointments, that's totally possible. Especially if it's the senator who said such a thing. Take California as an example. They have 53 districts. Thus, 53 representatives. Add 2 senators, and that's a guaranteed 55 MINIMUM appointments to an academy for california. (Assuming each representative has at least 1 open vacancy. Which most do). And being each state has only 2 senators, it's possible or even probable that the 10 names a senator nominates are 10 of the 530 names nominated from the 53 representatives. Plus, these 55 appointees are just the minimum. The other almost 500 nominees go into the national pool and can receive an appointment from there. My state only has 1 representative and the 2 senators of course. Almost every nominee has at least 2 nominations and many have all 3. It's not uncommon for us to have 5-6 appointees. The 3 guaranteed and another 2-3 from the national pool.
There are no hard fast rules that the senators/representatives must follow when it comes to nominating an individual. They don't HAVE to talk to the other MOCs. They are free to nominate a 2.0 gpa individual if that's what they truly want to do. They are free to submit 10 names and let the academy choose the appointee; or they can rank them 1-10 or just #1 and let the other 9 be unranked. Whatever you hear on this forum or similar places about what someone else's representative or senator does, means nothing for you. If you want to know what your MOC does, ask them.
As for 7-8 on a slate eventually receiving appointments, that's totally possible. Especially if it's the senator who said such a thing. Take California as an example. They have 53 districts. Thus, 53 representatives. Add 2 senators, and that's a guaranteed 55 MINIMUM appointments to an academy for california. (Assuming each representative has at least 1 open vacancy. Which most do). And being each state has only 2 senators, it's possible or even probable that the 10 names a senator nominates are 10 of the 530 names nominated from the 53 representatives. Plus, these 55 appointees are just the minimum. The other almost 500 nominees go into the national pool and can receive an appointment from there. My state only has 1 representative and the 2 senators of course. Almost every nominee has at least 2 nominations and many have all 3. It's not uncommon for us to have 5-6 appointees. The 3 guaranteed and another 2-3 from the national pool.
There are no hard fast rules that the senators/representatives must follow when it comes to nominating an individual. They don't HAVE to talk to the other MOCs. They are free to nominate a 2.0 gpa individual if that's what they truly want to do. They are free to submit 10 names and let the academy choose the appointee; or they can rank them 1-10 or just #1 and let the other 9 be unranked. Whatever you hear on this forum or similar places about what someone else's representative or senator does, means nothing for you. If you want to know what your MOC does, ask them.