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I need some help here.

My daughter's (sorry I just can't do the DD / DS thing) graduation program lists the scholorships each student has earned.

Honestly, I am a bit floored. The college counselor (and I copied and pasted it here so I make sure you get the exact wording she typed me)

I know she is having things paid for but if everyone gets that is it considered a scholarship?

So far, my response:

She has a HUGE packet of information she can bring to you and I will go through and see what it says.

Honestly, I am a bit concerned by your question. Getting accepted to service academy is not like applying to any other education institute. Yes, "They all get that" but they have had to do much more to be honored enough to be appointed to one of these establishments. Not to mention be willing to serve our country for 5 years afterward. She brought in her appointment.

I can look on the USNA web site for guidance. I would think NH would want to show that one of their students earned this. What did you all do when the other student in 2007 got her appointment?

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Talk me off the ledge my friends....
 
I would opt for the "you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar" approach, myself.

Maybe you could write something along the lines of: "From what I have heard and seen from other students who have won these competitive appointments to the service academies, their home schools do include the appointment under the heading of scholarships. I believe the service academies themselves will provide a number for the worth of the college education to admitted students in similar circumstances, which seems to show that the academies think it is appropriate to list the cost of the education under college scholarships won by students at a particular school. Of course, in the end the school should do what it is comfortable with (and perhaps there is precedent from past students who have attended service academies), but I did want you to know that most school systems appear to include service academy appointments as college scholarships. She not only had to be admitted to the Naval Academy, she had to compete for a competitive Congressional nomination as well. Thanks for your time and we appreciate all your help!"
 
cajost said:
I need some help here.

My daughter's (sorry I just can't do the DD / DS thing) graduation program lists the scholorships each student has earned.

Honestly, I am a bit floored. The college counselor (and I copied and pasted it here so I make sure you get the exact wording she typed me)

I know she is having things paid for but if everyone gets that is it considered a scholarship?

So far, my response:

She has a HUGE packet of information she can bring to you and I will go through and see what it says.

Honestly, I am a bit concerned by your question. Getting accepted to service academy is not like applying to any other education institute. Yes, "They all get that" but they have had to do much more to be honored enough to be appointed to one of these establishments. Not to mention be willing to serve our country for 5 years afterward. She brought in her appointment.

I can look on the USNA web site for guidance. I would think NH would want to show that one of their students earned this. What did you all do when the other student in 2007 got her appointment?

:thumbdown:

Talk me off the ledge my friends....
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pm-ed you
 
Thanks Academy friend,


I just needed to get my frustration out.

The irony is that she won't be at her own graduation because of regional rowing competition that weekend.

They used to list all the scholorships with amounts. Someone complained a few years ago and they only list the scholorship without amounts.

I'm just not going to worry about it. Bigger fish to fry.
 
cajost said:
Thanks Academy friend,


I just needed to get my frustration out.

The irony is that she won't be at her own graduation because of regional rowing competition that weekend.

They used to list all the scholorships with amounts. Someone complained a few years ago and they only list the scholorship without amounts.

I'm just not going to worry about it. Bigger fish to fry.
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Just call the local paper and they can do a nice article. Wider recognition for your daughter and moves the venue.

Good Luck at the regatta! Hope to see you soon in Lake Natomas at Youth Nationals!
 
News release?

This thread is a bit similar to my question; do we wait for the MOC to announce the appointment or does the USNA send a release to the local papers? For NASS they sent along a nice release statement that we could use, but I do not see that in the PTR packet. I am hoping there is some sort of default that we can use as I am not good at crafting such things. Thanks in advance for any help! :smile:
 
Nationals

Curry - that would be awesome to see you guys there!

Victoria is in the first boat and they are on target to get to nationals. (She's working hard to be in the stroke seat by regionals / nationals)

I don't know if I'll be able to go with the costs of I-Day and Parents weekend :eek:, I may have to hear about it instead of see it.

I didn't realize until one of your recent posts that your son is a rower. I am (sort of) surprised you are still in this holding pattern. Is your son light or heavy weight?
 
Program wording

This is what will be in the program by her name:

United States Naval Academy Athletic Scholarship-Women's Rowing

And I'm just fine with it.
 
cajost said:
This is what will be in the program by her name:

United States Naval Academy Athletic Scholarship-Women's Rowing

And I'm just fine with it.
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Glad you're happy with that, but I'm personally floored that the school counselor doesn't get how impressive it is to earn an appointment to an academy. When kids in our high school are appointed they practically roll out the red carpet for them and treat them like kings of scholarship night, which is, in my opinion, the way it should be. One of the kids was recruited by USMA golf and is now on the NCAA golf team. The scholarship night emcee mentioned that he could have gone to any one of the other 40 colleges that offered him a full ride to be on their golf team, but he chose West Point's team, and to serve his country instead. There was a loooooooooong standing ovation, well-deserved.

Congratulations to you and your daughter.
 
cajost said:
Thanks Academy friend,


I just needed to get my frustration out.

The irony is that she won't be at her own graduation because of regional rowing competition that weekend.

They used to list all the scholorships with amounts. Someone complained a few years ago and they only list the scholorship without amounts.

I'm just not going to worry about it. Bigger fish to fry.
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Its easy for a parent to think 'free ride' (equals scholarship), and for a student to think they have a path and a career that few of their peers will get to experience, but for the only time in my life, I have to agree with the Internal Revenue Service.

This is not a scholarship. According to the IRS, this is "Non Taxable EARNED income"
 
Let it go, Let it go.
Help your daughter get ready for plebe summer.
You have bigger fish to fry than this.
 
...Is this really something people get upset about? Do people actually care that everyone needs to know how many scholarships a student recieved and how much they're worth? Your kids are about to go to USNA and this will seem stupid and trivial by the day after it happens.

Maybe I don't get it since I'm not a parent and just a cynical grump, but the whole thing seems a bit ridiculous. Do the family/friends/whoever you care about know about and appreciate how cool it is that your child is going to an SA? Are you/them proud of your kid and excited for what they're about to go do? If yes, then why does anyone else's opinion matter?
 
If you contact your daughter's Blue and Gold Officer (or Area Coordinator) one of them will attend the awards program to re-present the certificate and explain the significance of being selected for an appointment.
 
I agree with some of the other posts on here already. Is it really that important that the school lists the scholarship in the program? Sure it might be nice, but a few months from now it won't matter. Your daughter got accepted and that is great. If people actively come to her to write stories or give awards that's fine, but I wouldn't go out actively seeking praise for it.
 
All,

Thank you for your comments.

I agree with all of you:

1. It really doesn't matter what the school does or doesn't do
2. All that matters is the end result - she's going to USNA
3. The people that "get it" will get it. Others don't matter.
4. 68 days until I-Day! :cool:

Also, just to clarify, the school won't allow her BGO to present her appointment. They feel it wouldn't be fair to the others students. (Again, whatever, bigger fish to fry) And the irony of it all is she won't even be at graduation because of regional rowing competition - so it REALLY doesn't matter!

Go Navy! Beat Army! :biggrin:
 
cajost said:
All,


Also, just to clarify, the school won't allow her BGO to present her appointment. They feel it wouldn't be fair to the others students. (Again, whatever, bigger fish to fry) And the irony of it all is she won't even be at graduation because of regional rowing competition - so it REALLY doesn't matter!

Go Navy! Beat Army! :biggrin:
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That is NOT right! DS's BGO contacted him about presenting at awards night, when administration at school was informed they were thrilled about having the presentation. As far as the program, no big deal, but the BGO presentation should be allowed. I'd go to a different administrator at the school. It really is quite a feather in the cap for a school to have a student appointed to a SA.
 
Blondie1 said:
That is NOT right! DS's BGO contacted him about presenting at awards night, when administration at school was informed they were thrilled about having the presentation. As far as the program, no big deal, but the BGO presentation should be allowed. I'd go to a different administrator at the school. It really is quite a feather in the cap for a school to have a student appointed to a SA.
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you misunderstand the anti-military sentiment that's still out there. There are still plenty of high-schools out there who do not allow the military on campus.
 
@kinem

Totally agree. My son's high school had not had an appointee to the USNA in 15 years . There was no JROTC and the American Legion did not even actively recruit kids for boys/girls state. And this is a high school that was just ranked in the top 185 high schools in the country so it is not because the talent pool is low , it is because of a disinterest in the military . My son did have a group of great teachers and administrators that were more than helpful when he told them what he was doing , but it was not a path that was popular .

Having said all that, the assistant principal called me to inform me that my son gets to lead the graduation ceremony in the Pledge of Allegiance and then the principal will talk a bit about his appointment.... I thought that was very nice.
 
I sometimes find myself alone on an island...This may be one of those times...

These are my personal thoughts....no reflection on what anyone else does feel or should feel.


I dont like the recognition...at all. It makes me uncomfortable and I dont know what to say without sounding...you know...


For my 1st son's usna apt and for my 2nd son's 4 yr rotc scholarship to a wildly over priced school...I was just grateful that my two kiddos got where they wanted to be, they get a cool job after they graduate, and so far I have almost a half a million more in my retirement.

I feel so lucky that I am almost uncomfortable by it...especially when I see others working as hard as my two did who didn't get so lucky. Follow the "still in the game" thread...

Our school doesn't recognize ....and honestly, I was glad for it...
 
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