AF introduces Total Force Commissioning Process

Just another reason that all cadets should take advantage of their university's career center offerings and consider civilian job opportunities. There are so many unanticipated ways to find yourself out of the program (grades, weight, budget cuts, etc) that you'll feel way more secure and comfortable in all these changes if you have a solid plan B in the works.
 
Does this apply for all career fields do you think? If one gets a rated slot, do you think they can commission and fly for their local guard unit? That would be a great gig.
 
I wonder if this will continue into FY16. Or if we have already seen a big enough loss in cadets between EAs and people being sent home from FT.
 
Looks like the days of guaranteed and automatic Active Duty for AFROTC cadets is over, they're now joining the Army process. Now AF cadets will have even more competition, first to get an EA slot, then to make Active Duty. This will be a real switch for the AF cadets.

PIMA will have a lot of editing to do in her previous posts, just kidding.

A whole new chapter in AFROTC is beginning.
 
Jcleppe said:
My guess is that this will stick around for a while.
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I am guessing it will too. Has this ever been implemented before? I wonder how many they are trying to allocate to reserves or just release.
 
sheriff3 said:
Very interesting. I know AROTC does this now. Do the Navy and Marine Corps have this in their toolbox as well?

http://www.af.mil/News/ArticleDispl...oduces-total-force-commissioning-process.aspx
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The way I read it, among the choices the Air Force is offering to new AFROTC commissionees is a voluntary option for complete separation without any obligation either to (a) serve in any active or reserve status or (b) repay scholarships and stipends. I'm not aware of this having been offered to AROTC commissioned officers.
 
I don't think NROTC does this (yet) but I would love to know from someone with more expertise than me.
 
EDelahanty said:
The way I read it, among the choices the Air Force is offering to new AFROTC commissionees is a voluntary option for complete separation without any obligation either to (a) serve in any active or reserve status or (b) repay scholarships and stipends. I'm not aware of this having been offered to AROTC commissioned officers.
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Your right, the Army does not offer this option.

With the size of the Army Reserves and National Guard I doubt it will ever be an option.

This won't be the first time the AF has done this, a couple years ago a good friend's son was offered complete separation a year past graduation with no obligation, he had been a scholarship AFROTC cadet and would owe nothing back. He took a pass on the deal and luckily was able to stay in the AF, there were enough volunteers at the time.
 
At this time, the program is not open to U.S. Air Force Academy cadets and officer training school will not be affected by this change.
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That line strikes me as interesting as heck... may be a point in the near future where even USAFA graduates no longer have a guarantee of AD?
 
Capt. Ahab said:
I wonder if this will continue into FY16. Or if we have already seen a big enough loss in cadets between EAs and people being sent home from FT.
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Have a lot been sent home from FT? More than average? Just curious...haven't heard this before now
 
MedB said:
That line strikes me as interesting as heck... may be a point in the near future where even USAFA graduates no longer have a guarantee of AD?
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I doubt you will see this happening at the AFA. The Army has been doing it this way for ever and West Point has never had the option.

There was a time when 80% +- of the ROTC cadets were accessed Reserves or National Guard. West Point was always Active Duty.
 
My daughter was recently commissioned a 2nd Lt in the Air Force from AFROTC. She is currently going through the Air Force's Nurse Transition Program (NTP). When these 32 recently commissioned nurses arrived a few days ago an AF Colonel at a briefing told them that most, if not all would not see the completion of their four year service obligations and to expect nursing RIFs beginning next year.

JMPO...but I don't think those selected for rated AFSCs have anything to worry about. That may not be true if you fail out of IFS or UPT....but that is just a guess.
 
Best advice...Get a roommate and pocket as much BAH as you can. Live cheap and put as much of that new LT pay as you can in the bank so you have a cushion when the time comes.
 
Good advice Jcleppe! :thumb:
Also wouldn't hurt to major in something that's employable in the civilian job market....just in case.
 
WannaBeOfficer said:
I was wondering this too. One kid from my det came home from Max 4. Are they just booting people left and right?
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Nope. Not a lot, but there have been a some removed that I know personally. But I thought being removed from FT this year wouldn't be too prevalent considering almost half our class was turned away during EAs.
 
More guidance from cadre:

A Voluntary Release Program will be offered to cadets scheduled to commission in CY14 (following the date of this message) and CY15. This program seeks cadets who desire to be voluntarily released from their AFROTC contract and Military Service Obligation (MSO). All lieutenants in the IRR are ineligible for release, and cadets scheduled to commission in CY14 who are already classified as 13N Nuclear and Missile Operation Officers are also ineligible.

An ARC Volunteer program will be available for cadets scheduled to commission in CY14 (following the date of this message) and CY15, and for Air Force officers commissioned through ROTC who are currently in the IRR awaiting initial skills training. This program seeks individuals who are interested in affiliating with a Guard or Reserve unit. Cadets and officers already classified as 13N Nuclear and Missile Operation Officers are ineligible.

Cadets scheduled to commission in CY15 who have not been classified into an Air Force Specialty, and who have not confirmed affiliation with a Guard or Reserve unit via a letter of intent provided to AFPC/DPSIP by 15 Sep 14, will then compete via the Cadet Active Component Allocation Process (CACAP) using the AFROTC national order of merit. Cadet’s composite scores and the number of requirements the Active Component has available determines how many cadets will be awarded an allocation to the Active Component (RegAF) or to the Air Reserve Component (ARC). Cadets awarded an allocation to the ARC will be allowed to seek affiliation with a Guard or Reserve unit to fulfill their MSO, based on the number of requirements the ARC has available. Cadets with an ARC allocation who do not align themselves with a Guard or Reserve unit will fulfill their MSO in the IRR.
 
enskaisin said:
Cadets scheduled to commission in CY15 who have not been classified into an Air Force Specialty, and who have not confirmed affiliation with a Guard or Reserve unit via a letter of intent provided to AFPC/DPSIP by 15 Sep 14, will then compete via the Cadet Active Component Allocation Process (CACAP) using the AFROTC national order of merit. Cadet’s composite scores and the number of requirements the Active Component has available determines how many cadets will be awarded an allocation to the Active Component (RegAF) or to the Air Reserve Component (ARC). Cadets awarded an allocation to the ARC will be allowed to seek affiliation with a Guard or Reserve unit to fulfill their MSO, based on the number of requirements the ARC has available. Cadets with an ARC allocation who do not align themselves with a Guard or Reserve unit will fulfill their MSO in the IRR.
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Sounds just like the Army ROTC process except for the part in bold, that is not an option in the Army....yet.

Sounds like it's good to be a Missile Operations Officer right about now.
 
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