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usmma2020z

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So I know there's restrictions when it comes to phones. My question is, what is the policy for phones, facebook, skype, or any other form of communication through your computer such as google hangouts? I also understand that it changes throughout the first two terms, but what is it in those phases? Thank you.
 
Well, theoretically, you aren't allowed to Skype call or video chat. But when your door is closed anything goes. So (as a Plebe) after 10PM you can do what you want with your door shut. Phones will be taken during indoc and you will get them on the weekends only (and liberty) until maybe Feb or so if your CTO is nice. If your CTO is not nice, he will keep them in a box until you are recognized as a midshipman. And until then, you will have only weekly calls. You can probably count on getting it back permanently in February. Facebook from your computer is whatever/whenever you want.

Although I have heard rumors that plebes will not have their doors open all day next year, those are only rumors. I have heard that plebe doors will only have to be open from 0600-1600 rather than 0600-2200 like this year was (is).
 
MMA19kid said:
Well, theoretically, you aren't allowed to Skype call or video chat. But when your door is closed anything goes. So (as a Plebe) after 10PM you can do what you want with your door shut. Phones will be taken during indoc and you will get them on the weekends only (and liberty) until maybe Feb or so if your CTO is nice. If your CTO is not nice, he will keep them in a box until you are recognized as a midshipman. And until then, you will have only weekly calls. You can probably count on getting it back permanently in February. Facebook from your computer is whatever/whenever you want.

Although I have heard rumors that plebes will not have their doors open all day next year, those are only rumors. I have heard that plebe doors will only have to be open from 0600-1600 rather than 0600-2200 like this year was (is).
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Ok information that's nice to know ahead of time. Thank you.
 
What are the Plebe restrictions on having a car and parking? For their first year trimesters should they leave their car at home or bring it? I'd like to know your experiences pro/con. Thank you.
 
kpdad2023 said:
What are the Plebe restrictions on having a car and parking? For their first year trimesters should they leave their car at home or bring it? I'd like to know your experiences pro/con. Thank you.
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As a plebe, no cars. That is a earned privilege, past recognition. They will not need a car until 2nd/1st class year in most cases.
 
Prepare yourself for plebe year by assuming you will be stuck on campus. You will not leave between the day you arrive and Parents Weekend. The only exception is if you are on a fall sport and you are selected to go on a TM (team movement.) After Parents Weekend, your liberty will be limited until recognition which usually happens in April. Even if you think you are going to have liberty, it will frequently be taken away at the last minute when someone in your class screws up in some way. As for a car, you don't need one even when you are 2nd or 1st class and are allowed to have one. You are a short Uber or bus ride from the Long Island Railroad and New York City.
 
Something to think about is insurance. We were able to remove our mid from our policy, and at a substantial monthly savings!! He is still able to drive when he is back (ie breaks), similar to how a friend can drive our car. And if he eventually takes a car back, we will add him back on.
 
If he was removed from you insurance policy how was he able to drive during breaks? Did you add him back to the policy for a few days?
 
Same as if you loaned the car to Aunt Sally while she was visiting. The car is insured despite the driver. The mid is no longer a regular driver.

Once they are a regular driver of the car again if they bring it back to school, they can go back or your policy or get a policy in their own name. Many midshipmen and cadets switch to USAA at this time, for which they will be eligible.

Your licensed insurance agent is the best source of information.
 
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Check with you insurance company. Ours allows it (Geico), as do many as discussed on parent pages. The vehicle is insured. He has permission to use it. Same as if I let a friend drive my car. They aren’t on my policy either.
 
First of all, you're not going to have a car until and unless you make it to 1/C year. My class started with 260 and is now less than 200 of the original. However, the system has softened over the years.

Capt MJ said:
Same as if you loaned the car to Aunt Sally while she was visiting. The car is insured despite the driver. The mid is no longer a regular driver.

Once they are a regular driver of the car again if they bring it back to school, they can go back or your policy or get a policy in their own name. Many midshipmen and cadets switch to USAA at this time, for which they will be eligible.

Your licensed insurance agent is the best source of information.
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This advice works in theory, if the Sally (whom you lend your car to) has a fender bender. By freely lending your car to another party, you become vicariously liable for damages arising from their use of the car. This could include personal injury to another party, and you can be sure attorneys will chase the deepest pockets, which would be the parent. If you have substantial assets, transfer the title of your child's car to your child. Consult an attorney that practices in this area, and disregard advice from people like the others here who are clearly not an attorney.
 
For those families who are USAA members with auto insurance, be sure and ask about the special accommodation for Service Academy cadets and midshipmen. It’s not the away at college discount; it is specifically for SA mids and cadets. As I recall, you no longer pay their part of your premium, but they are fully covered, when at home on short leave periods and driving the covered car. No matter whose insurance you have, you will want to review the options with your licensed agent, as I noted above, keeping in mind the risks noted by Mr. 2020.

Many parents, when mids and cadets are eligible to have a car at their SA, re-title a car in mid/cadet name, and mid/cadet then gets an insurance policy in their own name. The insurance companies who cater to the military understand how relatively little autos are driven by SA mids and cadets, and generally price accordingly.
 
Capt MJ said:
For those families who are USAA members with auto insurance, be sure and ask about the special accommodation for Service Academy cadets and midshipmen. It’s not the away at college discount; it is specifically for SA mids and cadets. As I recall, you no longer pay their part of your premium, but they are fully covered, when at home on short leave periods and driving the covered car. No matter whose insurance you have, you will want to review the options with your licensed agent, as I noted above, keeping in mind the risks noted by Mr. 2020.
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It doesn't matter if your son or daughter is listed on the policy or not, as the owner of a vehicle freely lending it you expose yourself to significant liability. Consult an attorney, however, after having spoken with two NY state attorneys on the issue the only solution is to transfer the title if you have significant assets.

Insurance agents will do what they can to sell policies and further to minimize underwriting losses. They have no care in the world about your personal exposure. To think otherwise would be delusional. The only answer here is to consult with an attorney. period, end of story.
 
Ok, my comment is about my own son. Not any joe on the street. I get what you are saying in theory as well about any joe. But DS driving while home during a break is a different scenario than any joe. I was speaking from the perspective of the fact that he won’t drive but for a few weeks out of the year. So the significant savings is something to consider. If you want. If you don’t want to consider it? Don’t. I’m talking about my own son driving for a week. Or three. A year. We are covered.
 
In my experience, most did not have cars. No parking until 1st Class year, other than working some deals with locals to park on their property. I certainly did not have a car. We did have a "community" car that was available, a 74 Maverick affectionately called the "Embarrassing Stain". I recall fondly driving that thing with the bald tires in snow and ice. . . .Amazingly, I don't recall anyone ever wrecking it. . . considering the level of inebriation of the average driver, that is quite a record. . ..
 
cmakin said:
In my experience, most did not have cars. No parking until 1st Class year, other than working some deals with locals to park on their property. I certainly did not have a car. We did have a "community" car that was available, a 74 Maverick affectionately called the "Embarrassing Stain". I recall fondly driving that thing with the bald tires in snow and ice. . . .Amazingly, I don't recall anyone ever wrecking it. . . considering the level of inebriation of the average driver, that is quite a record. . ..
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Reminds me of a few years ago, couple 1/C Deck Mids were getting home from a night out. Almost made it back to the lot, but wrecked it on a tree a few blocks down. Both eventually graduated somehow.

However, I would say that half of 1/C mids have cars and half don't. Don't even think about it if youre not a 1/C. I think the days of parking at random places in Great Neck are over.
 
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