Thank you for the advice on the forum's search feature. Your previous posts were very informative.There’s this little button called “search” on the forum. Try it some time. You might like it. (If you’re a real poster and not a troll). Nothing personal.
Let me echo Christcorp's comments. Each SA publishes instructions. If you start there you can't go wrong. I will say USAFA does not talk much, even at all, about recruiting. It is left to each individual coach. If the coach wants you, you meet admission requirements and there is room (the big if), you have a good shot. If a recruit pops into play at the last minute you may be bumped down and out of the running. There is only so much room for recruited athletes. I will say, that coaches are generally honest about a candidate's athletic prospects. They don't know so much about the other admission factors. Don't hear only what you want to hear from a coach. It is D1 recruiting afterall. If a candidate drops out, they would like to move someone up as well and want to keep these folks interested. Always, Always, Always have a plan B, C, D.I replied the way I did, because there are probably close to 143,435 or more posts on this topic. Matter of fact, on the main page of recent topics, there’s an entire thread on recruited athletes. Wouldn’t even need to search to see that one.
I wasn’t being a smart a$$. But from your question, it was apparent that you didn’t look at any previous threads. Even on the first page within the last day or two. Your question could have easily have been asked in that thread. Which by the way, was also answered in that thread. By many people and none other than myself.
It’s one thing to answer the same questions over and over again because someone didn’t try searching first. But when there’s a thread titled recruited athletes just 8 threads down from the one your started, that’s a bit frustrating.
And again, as I posted, it’s nothing personal.
Observation: for anyone that cares. I’ve been on this forum a while, so my observation may be anecdotal, but I bet a person would be hard pressed to come up with any question that hasn’t already been asked and addressed on this forum concerning the academy. ANY QUESTION.
I understand there are a lot of anxious individuals who visit the forums who are interested in attending the academies. They have hundreds of questions and they are impatient for the answers. But one of the first signs of maturity, whether for the academy, going to college, getting a job, etc. is being able to do for yourself and not rely on others to do for you and look for the easy way out.
And just so you know, I am not lecturing you or being personal. Those who know me on the forum, know that I write posts NOT only for the original poster, but MORE for the readers who haven’t posted, for whatever reason. So not only do you get your answer and learn, but so others can learn from this thread also without necessarily asking a question directly.
Best of luck
After reading the 143,435 previous posts regarding this topic plus the other posts above, I have concluded that the terms blue chip and recruited athlete have no technical or quantifiable meaning at USAFA. Thanks to all for the informative posts. You all have truly been a wealth of information.
The only thing I’d question on this, is first hand experience with my son. He was recruited by the academy to play football. He was also considered and called by the recruiting coach a “Blue chip”. Here’s the kicker. By the time the coach knew about my son and football, because of reports and articles the coach received about my sons teaming winning state championship, son being selected all State, and other accolades, my son had already received an appointment prior to being recruited. My son received his appointment in October but was recruited by the coach in November.My unofficial definitions (might fall under the OP's definition of quantifiable) from being on the forum for awhile:
Recruited Athlete: A 3/Q'ed SA candidate that a coach is interested in seeing receive & accept an Offer of Appointment.
Blue Chip: A recruited athlete so highly thought of that the coach is willing to request/use a Superintendent's Nomination on.
[QUOTE="Christcorp, post: 618220, Those who know me on the forum, know that I write posts NOT only for the original poster, but MORE for the readers who haven’t posted, for whatever reason. So not only do you get your answer and learn, but so others can learn from this thread also without necessarily asking a question directly.
Best of luck
[QUOTE="Christcorp, post: 618220, Those who know me on the forum, know that I write posts NOT only for the original poster, but MORE for the readers who haven’t posted, for whatever reason. So not only do you get your answer and learn, but so others can learn from this thread also without necessarily asking a question directly.
Best of luck
Others can only benefit from your post if they use the "search" function and find this thread, then read it to find your post....
Lol
Nice work though!
Others can only benefit from your post if they use the "search" function and find this thread, then read it to find your post....
Lol
Nice work though!
My unofficial definitions (might fall under the OP's definition of quantifiable) from being on the forum for awhile:
Recruited Athlete: A 3/Q'ed SA candidate that a coach is interested in seeing receive & accept an Offer of Appointment.
Blue Chip: A recruited athlete so highly thought of that the coach is willing to request/use a Superintendent's Nomination on.
I will also add that the ALO situation changed a lot between my daughter applying for class of 2021 and reapplying for class of 2022. It was not a good change and I feel that there were many more unhappy with the changes that were made.BBBRRRTT, it's a valid question. Having observed the process through my DS and scouring these pages for info...I still had questions and our experience did not necessarily match what I read here and heard from coaches. After you have made enough postings, then please PM me and I'll be happy to share our experience - realize it may be different between sports and coaches.
In short, you need to focus on getting in with the best scores you can, even if your told you have a blue chip. You will see on these pages many do not get in with high marks in all areas. Just focus on presenting your best. You can find on the Internet the guidebook for ALO it goes over suggested interview questions etc.
PS I have one son who graduated this year and another son who was told he had a blue chip who did not get accepted.
The process seems to have changed from the admission of DS1 to DS 2 so change is a constant. ALO was very responsive the first time. We had a hard time getting any response the second time. Trying to schedule the interview was very difficult and happened via video chat compared to a home visit the first time. That being said to show info here does become outdated as you search back for info .