We are in PA.@Objective and @Cookiemom what states are you in? That seems to be a factor for LOAs.
We are in PA.@Objective and @Cookiemom what states are you in? That seems to be a factor for LOAs.
@Objective and @Cookiemom what states are you in? That seems to be a factor for LOAs.
An average ACT score of 25 is a reasonable estimate of the average ACT score for those receiving special consideration and appointed as Additional Appointees. For perspective, football players in one recent class had an average ACT score on the Math/English sections of 25 and median of 24.
Averages for those appointed from competitive categories or as Qualified Alternates is necessarily much higher in order to bring the overall average down to the numbers reported in the class profile.
I noticed that too. Maybe from super scoring?SAT/ACT scores have slowly drifted higher over the years. 2023 highest yet
Read an article on how the SAT scored is averaging higher and higher each year. The article speculated inflation on college board's part, they noted the true average to be 1100 for SAT instead of 1000 and that a correction was due.I noticed that too. Maybe from super scoring?
With the release of class of 2018 results from both ACT and College Board, we can now say definitively that students saw the most competitive scores ever. In the last 10 years, the number of students scoring 1400–1600 on the SAT or 31–36 on the ACT doubled. In just the last 5 years, the number of students scoring 1500–1600 or 34–36 has doubled.
Do you know what CEER at the bottom of the page stands for?Hi,
Sharing this link from USMA.. interesting stats covering several years including for class of 2023.
Class Characteristics | United States Military Academy West Point
West Point Military Academywestpoint.edu
Regards
The application scores we used to predict these three outcomes are the whole candidate score (WCS), which is calculated by the USMA, and the application scores that the USMA uses to calculate the WCS: the academic composite score, or college entrance examination rank (CEER), which factors in Scholastic Aptitude Test (SAT) or ACT scores and the high school rank convert score (HSRCS); candidate fitness assessment (CFA); faculty appraisal score (FAS); athletic activities score (AAS); and extracurricular activities score (EAS).
But if you're corps squad or a preferred group, you don't even need a 25. In fact, a 16, 18, or 20 will do just fine.Of course, this is exactly the reason for my comment above .. if you are a regular candidate, there's no way in hell you're getting in with a 25 ACT
Hi,
Sharing this link from USMA.. interesting stats covering several years including for class of 2023.
Class Characteristics | United States Military Academy West Point
West Point Military Academywestpoint.edu
Regards
Technically correct, but candidates with test scores that low will not be direct admits to USMA. After a year at USMAPS, if they are assessed as capable of handling USMA academics, they are admitted. However, those low test scores follow them.But if you're corps squad or a preferred group, you don't even need a 25. In fact, a 16, 18, or 20 will do just fine.
Corps Squad Athletes and Test Scores
Reminder: LTC Heffington’s letter and LTG Caslen’s letters LTC Heffington made a specific, and fortunately for us, easily and empirically test-able claim that: Every fall, the Superin…usmadata.com
Here's some data that's much more detailed and illuminating than the published class profiles. Unfortunately, it only covers through the class of '20.
.Class Year Data
The previous posts have been most edifying to put together, but we’ve been a bit short on time lately to build on them. There is additional analysis that can be done on activities (in particu…usmadata.com
Technically correct, but candidates with test scores that low will not be direct admits to USMA. After a year at USMAPS, if they are assessed as capable of handling USMA academics, they are admitted. However, those low test scores follow them.
All colleges admit certain groups of students with much lower test scores and academic credentials than the "normal" student, even Ivy League universities; the University of California system is particularly adroit at funneling marginal students into the pipeline.
To West Point's credit, they provide the groundwork for these students to meet the challenge, rather than just throwing them in the deep end without preparation.
That's a good question. We believe this is based on self reported applications, which may account for the large drop in White students in the early 2003-04 classes.Thanks for posting this link! Under race, if you are bi-racial, are you listed as "O" or is there another way this is accounted for?
Here's some data that's much more detailed and illuminating than the published class profiles. Unfortunately, it only covers through the class of '20.
.Class Year Data
The previous posts have been most edifying to put together, but we’ve been a bit short on time lately to build on them. There is additional analysis that can be done on activities (in particu…usmadata.com
I've used that data on numerous occasions for a couple of years now and checked for accuracy against specific cadets I know well. While it is largely accurate, the data does share the same problem of all large data bases - input/transfer errors. In particular, I find the USMAPS attendance data highly suspect - to the point that I do not uses that column at all. It is unlikely that appointees with such low test scores would receive the academic "Q".A quick analysis, attached, indicates that this isn't quite accurate. See the percentage of cadets attending USMA by ACT average (Math & English, for consistency) by USMAPs code for classes 2014-2020 (the "blank" column indicating that they didn't attend USMAPs at all.) We don't know what the codes are, but use of any of them for a cadet would indicate that USMAPs was present, and a blank field would indicate no prep before attending USMA. There are still non-trivial numbers of cadets attending with low scores and no prep.
This is of course not getting into whether West Point ought to be taking remedial students (as opposed to prior service, who do need an academic refresh) in any case, even with prep, which is a whole other discussion. We might consider this "teaching to the test."
Those stats include every one who opened a file. A couple quirks make themselves apparent:Just so I'm clear, are these stats for everyone who applied? Also, in the column under "AC", the title is called "applicant admitted fg." I'd imagine that this shows whether the applicant was admitted or not, but I can only see an "N" next to each name, which seems to be "no"?
curious as to source of data !! Is this website legit? How is this data obtained?Here's some data that's much more detailed and illuminating than the published class profiles. Unfortunately, it only covers through the class of '20.
.Class Year Data
The previous posts have been most edifying to put together, but we’ve been a bit short on time lately to build on them. There is additional analysis that can be done on activities (in particu…usmadata.com