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This was sent to me yesterday night.

Forwarded to me from the ex Chief of Police in Tacoma, WA.

Here's a scary report about an airline incident, not aggressively reported in the main stream media (political correctness, you know). I'm sending the first-person account, and at the bottom is a link to an Atlanta newspaper article. No one seems very concerned; bet if you had been on this plane you would have been.
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*Subject:* Long story short....

One week ago, I went to Ohio on business and to see my father. On Tuesday, November the 17th, I returned home. If you read the papers the 18th you may have seen a blurb where a AirTran flight was cancelled from Atlanta to Houston due to a man who refused to get off of his cell phone before takeoff. It was on Fox.

This was NOT what happened.

I was in 1st class coming home. 11 Muslim men got on the plane in full attire. 2 sat in 1st class and the rest peppered themselves throughout the plane all the way to the back. As the plane taxied to the runway the stewardesses gave the safety spiel we are all so familiar with. At that time, one of the men got on his cell and called one of his companions in the back and proceeded to talk on the phone in Arabic very loudly and
very aggressively. This took the 1st stewardess out of the picture for she repeatedly told the man that cell phones were not permitted at the time. He ignored her as if she was not there.

The 2nd man who answered the phone did the same and this took out the 2nd stewardess. In the back of the plane at this time, 2 younger Muslims, one in the back, isle, and one in front of him, window, began to show footage of a porno they had taped the night before, and were very loud about it. Now....they are only permitted to do this prior to Jihad. If a Muslim man goes into a strip club, he has to view the woman via mirror with his back to her. (don't ask me....I don't make the rules, but I've studied) The 3rd stewardess informed them that they were not to have electronic devices on at this time. To which one of the men said "shut up infidel dog!" She went to take the camcorder and he began to scream in her face in Arabic. At that exact moment, all 11 of them got up and started to walk the cabin.
This is where I had had enough! I got up and started to the back where I heard a voice behind me from another Texan twice my size say "I got your back." I grabbed the man who had been on the phone by the arm and said "you WILL go sit down or you Will be thrown from this plane!" As I "led" him around me to take his seat, the fellow Texan grabbed him by the back of his neck and his waist and headed out with him. I then grabbed the 2nd man and said, "You WILL do the same!" He protested but adrenaline was flowing now and he was going to go. As I escorted him forward the plane doors open and 3 TSA agents and 4 police officers entered. Me and my new Texan friend were told to cease and desist for they had this under control. I was happy to oblige actually. There was some commotion in the back, but within moments, all 11 were escorted off the plane. They then unloaded their luggage.

We talked about the occurrence and were in disbelief that it had happen, when suddenly, the door open again and on walked all 11!! Stone faced, eyes front and robotic (the only way I can describe it). The stewardess from the back had been in tears and when she saw this, she was having NONE of it! Being that I was up front, I heard and saw the whole ordeal. She told the TSA agent there was NO WAY she was staying on the plane with these men. The agent told her they had searched them and were going to go through their luggage with a fine tooth comb and that they were allowed to proceed to Houston. The captain and co-captain came out and told the agent "we and our crew will not fly this plane!" After a word or two, the entire crew, luggage in tow, left the plane. 5 minutes later, the cabin door opened again and a whole new crew walked on.

Again.....this is where I had had enough!!! I got up and asked "What the hell is going on!?!?" I was told to take my seat. They were sorry for the delay and I would be home shortly. I said "I'm getting off this plane". The stewardess sternly told me that she could not allow me to get off. (now I'm mad!) I said "I am a grown man who bought this ticket, who's time is mine with a family at home and I am going through that door, or I'm going through that door with you under my arm!! But I am going through that door!!" And I heard a voice behind me say "so am I".
Then everyone behind us started to get up and say the same. Within 2 minutes, I was walking off that plane where I was met with more agents who asked me to write a statement. I had 5 hours to kill at this point so why the hell not. Due to the amount of people who got off that flight, it was cancelled. I was supposed to be in Houston at 6pm. I got here at 12:30am.

Look up the date. Flight 297 Atlanta to Houston.

If this wasn't a dry run, I don't know what one is. The terrorists wanted to see how TSA would handle it, how the crew would handle it, and how the passengers would handle it.

I'm telling this to you because I want you to know....The threat is real. I saw it with my own eyes....

-Tedd Petruna

*A generic news article about same incident:*
*http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/faa-to-investigate-cell-202143.html*
 
Any Idea why Fox hasn't had these guys on yet? Would be something they would cover...
 
:bsflagsmileyface:

An entire replacement flight crew available in 5 minutes?

That (and a simple search of snopes.com) make me believe this story contains many embellishments if not complete fabrications.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/flight297.asp

I hope it's not true. I looked at your link and it only speculates and says it is unproved so I'm confused as to how that made you believe its false. :confused:

As far as the replacement crew in five minutes, that does seem very unlikely...I can only speculate but I wouldn't completely dismiss it based on only one thing which could possibly had happened. Or maybe the amount of time was an estimate, I doubt the person giving his account clocked the exact time.
 
:bsflagsmileyface:

An entire replacement flight crew available in 5 minutes?

That (and a simple search of snopes.com) make me believe this story contains many embellishments if not complete fabrications.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/flight297.asp

Agree there are lots of questions. However, in Atlanta, there are plenty of crews available (main hub) and I'm pretty sure the crew probably made their intent known well before the people were allowed back on the plane. Also likely, with the delay, the crew may have already been maxed out on their hours for the day and could not fly legally at that point, or simply the switch of crew made future connections of that plane work correcly with flying hours rules.

That is why I asked about Fox. If there are any legs to such a story, they will generally give as much air time to this as they can.
 
205's flight delay definitely makes the story seem unbelievable...
however, I would not particularly discredit completely a political cover-up.
If anyone remembers details of the Fort Hood incident (RIP), the culprit was seen in 'full attire' doing strange prayers in a conveniance store, and supposedly had shouts of 'Allah-Akbar', or something of the sort. In which President Obama responded, something of 'lets not jump to any conclusions'.
That, in short, seems a tad off to me for him to protect the name of Islamic extremism, or for some reason try to convince the public that it was not an act of Islamic extremism gone militant... when it is almost completely obvious that it was.

Take it as you want, I am not accusing Obama of being a terrorist, obviously, just merely that "political correctness" is replacing logic and truth...
 
OK, let's get this straight...a muslin, disguised as an Army major kills 13 soldiers and seriously wounds dozens more, and according to Obama, we're not supposed to "jump to any conclusions." Yet police in Cambridge, Mass follow procedures while responding to a late-night break-in are accused of "acting stupidly." :rolleyes:
 
Not quite, he WAS a Major, not disguised as one. And I think the "not jump to any conclusions" thing was addressing the fact that he is a Muslim, and not jump to the conclusion that it was some kind of planned terrorist attack. From what I understand, he just cracked because he was extremely upset when he found out he was going to be deployed to Iraq.
 
just my two cents

I have no personal knowledge other than news reports, but it didn't seem like he cracked.
I have some law experience and this crime seems premeditated. He was giving away possessions visiting "pagan" sites. That usually happens when a Muslim is preparing for jihad. He wasn't at the center, snapped when he saw injured soldiers coming back and pull out his gun and start shooting. It was planned. At least by him/

While I don't think political correctness should cost lives, I think that we do need to realize that all Muslims do not follow the same interpretations of the Koran. For example there are some "Christians" that do things I consider heinous. However, I have no problem identifying terrorist's faith as part of a motivating factor when committing this acts.
 
Not quite, he WAS a Major, not disguised as one. And I think the "not jump to any conclusions" thing was addressing the fact that he is a Muslim, and not jump to the conclusion that it was some kind of planned terrorist attack. From what I understand, he just cracked because he was extremely upset when he found out he was going to be deployed to Iraq.

I realize he was a major, but by all accounts, he had no business being in the US Army. Attending the same mosque as the 9/11 terrorists, corresponding with al qaeda operatives in the Middle East, and preaching jihad to soldiers in need of therapy leads me to believe that he didn't just "snap." It's interesting that the "state-run" media has no problem calling a kook who randomly kills several people at a 7/11 a "terrorist", yet due to political correctness run amuck, cannot call this guy the terrorist that he is.
 
If you do not agree with the US military, frankly, DON'T JOIN IT! It was his personal choice to enlist in the army, and obviously that would mean possible deployment. There's plenty of people getting deployed-- not all of them go on a massive killing spree of their own people.

Not to mention he had ongoing record of being a pretty radical follower of Islam. Supposedly others that worked with him noticed that. It's just sad that America allowed this to happen. People obviously unfit for positions should be removed immediately. It's another case as we saw, but we didn't stop.
 
I have no personal knowledge other than news reports, but it didn't seem like he cracked.
I have some law experience and this crime seems premeditated. He was giving away possessions visiting "pagan" sites. That usually happens when a Muslim is preparing for jihad. He wasn't at the center, snapped when he saw injured soldiers coming back and pull out his gun and start shooting. It was planned. At least by him/

While I don't think political correctness should cost lives, I think that we do need to realize that all Muslims do not follow the same interpretations of the Koran. For example there are some "Christians" that do things I consider heinous. However, I have no problem identifying terrorist's faith as part of a motivating factor when committing this acts.

Of course none of us are privy to the actual facts of the case but the above post represents my thoughts too. Yes it's only from news reports but it was clearly premeditated and he had ties to radical Muslims. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's usually a duck IMVHO.
 
Just my theory the terrorist in question had been successfully recruited by al-qaeda some time ago. His primary mission was to disrupt the military from within while remaining under the radar. political correctness allowed him to accomplish this mission with little difficulty. A deployment into a hot zone would make it more difficult for the major to remain undetected, PC don't work in Battle. I think his handlers being concerned with being comprised decided that the major should go and collect his 70 virgins and kill as many infidels as he could. The major flaw in the plan was the major did not die, yet.
I believe this terrorist should be interrogated Jack Bauer style for info on contacts, methods of communications and any other info he may poses then executed.

I should write for TV
 
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