J&J Covid Vaccine

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My DD (class of 2025) will be getting the J&J Covid Vaccine this week. Does anyone have any knowledge of the Academy/Medical having any reservations regarding that particular vaccine?
 
I had a J and J vaccine last week along with 23 work mates and beyond some sore arms for a day or two there were no issues at all. Appreciate it being one jab instead of two so I don't have to stand in that line again :)
 
Emsa said:
You didn't see the line ;)
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I hear ya. I'm a teacher and was able to be one of the first but there were thousands wanting the same thing. My first shot went quickly and told that to another teacher. When she went for her first, she had hundreds of people in front of her on a cold day. She sent me a video which I watched in the comfort of my warm house.
 
@Devil Doc The efficacy rates for all the vaccines in the U.S are the same. It's just that JnJ had their trials at a time that there were more covid cases and that covid variants were much more severe. If Pfizer and Moderna did theirs at the time of JnJ trials, they would all have the same efficacy rates. So, there is no such thing that one is more effective than the other. They are all the same.
 
Redboadt142 said:
@Devil Doc The efficacy rates for all the vaccines in the U.S are the same. It's just that JnJ had their trials at a time that there were more covid cases and that covid variants were much more severe. If Pfizer and Moderna did theirs at the time of JnJ trials, they would all have the same efficacy rates. So, there is no such thing that one is more effective than the other. They are all the same.
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We're beyond the clinical trial stage. I was going on the study of real-world evidence which came out six days ago.

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Emsa said:
You didn't see the line ;)
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It's funny you had a long line, assuming this was recent. DW has been volunteering at several vaccination events. The first couple had large turnouts with substantial lines and appointments required. The last couple have been a "tell everyone you know who wants to get vaccinated to come on down. No appointment needed. No line." It appears we have reached a point where nearly everyone who wants to be vaccinated has been able to get it.
 
"Appointees can receive, prior to arrival, any of the vaccines currently monitored and approved by the CDC and FDA (EUA)"

Just bring proof of vaccination to I-Day
 
Outside of the issue with blood clots, I don't think it has any other major issues. Some people including women are more inclined to blood clots but there are also several other factors that would lead someone to think a person may have an issue with it. An 18-22-year-old isn't probably going to have anything preexisting, so it becomes a little bit of a crapshoot. However, the chances of anything happening are rare especially in such a small group
 
I received the J&J vaccine on Tuesday but was sure to call the cadet immunization clinic prior to make sure it would be accepted. They told me any of the three vaccines are acceptable as long as you have proof of vaccination on I-Day.
 
Not yet. I think 98% have voluntarily been vaccinated. Down the road I expect it will be, similar to other immunizations. There may be things unvaccinated mids might not be allowed to do come summer training time, so that’s a powerful motivator.
 
usafacellist2026 said:
I'm just curious... is the COVID vaccine mandatory for SA's?
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Neither the military nor the SA (i would imagine) can force the vaccine on anyone at this point. Why because none of the vaccines we are using today have been authorized by the FDA. Yes, the FDA allows them to be used per an emergency order but none of them have gotten final approval. From what I read, Pfizer is in the process of applying for final approval and I guess at that point, the Military can force the vaccination if they so desire
 
usafacellist2026 said:
I'm just curious... is the COVID vaccine mandatory for SA's?
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Until Secretary Austin mandates it, no Covid-19 Vaccines are mandatory as of now. The thing to remember is if you report not vaccinated (to any of the Academies, boot camp of individual units) you will have a different set of protocols and ROM's than the vaccinated members. I know for this year it effects ROTC training cycles, members must have proof of vaccination to attend as we were told by our son. It likely has some similar effect at the Academies in regards to summer training in groups, not being vaccinated may affect your summer training either way.
 
Impulsive said:
Until Secretary Austin mandates it, no Covid-19 Vaccines are mandatory as of now. The thing to remember is if you report not vaccinated (to any of the Academies, boot camp of individual units) you will have a different set of protocols and ROM's than the vaccinated members. I know for this year it effects ROTC training cycles, members must have proof of vaccination to attend as we were told by our son. It likely has some similar effect at the Academies in regards to summer training in groups, not being vaccinated may affect your summer training either way.
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Seeing they are making Cadets, who have the antibodies, but not vaccinated have different set of protocols and ROM's also. This is completely political and not based in science. Frankly, it's bull****. There is no scientific evidence that the vaccine provides more or better immunity than natural antibodies.
 
Seeing they are making Cadets, who have the antibodies, but not vaccinated have different set of protocols and ROM's also. This is completely political and not based in science. Frankly, it's bull****. There is no scientific evidence that the vaccine provides more or better immunity than natural antibodies.
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www.contagionlive.com

Immune Response From mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines Is More Robust Than Natural Infection

Antibody levels induced by mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are much higher than those induced by natural infection and confer cross-reactivity that could be effective against new variants, a new study from the University of California, Irvine, found.
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Looks like there is -

"After the second dose of the vaccine, antibody titers were up to 10 times higher than those of patients who had recovered from natural COVID-19 infection, suggesting that even those with prior exposure could benefit from vaccination."
 
Ridgerunner said:
Seeing they are making Cadets, who have the antibodies, but not vaccinated have different set of protocols and ROM's also. This is completely political and not based in science. Frankly, it's bull****. There is no scientific evidence that the vaccine provides more or better immunity than natural antibodies.
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IMHO, It really does not matter what "your" feelings are. These young people opted to "volunteer" to serve, and their superiors make the rules. This is not Google or Twitter, it is the US Military, and readiness, force protection, and being able to protect those who the people in charge have determined pose a risk, however slight to the others need to be separated to protect everyone.

This is not about "discrimination" of certain people, it is protecting the majority of the military so that our country is safe. It does not matter a persons beliefs or thoughts that one type of protection is better than another, you or your child signed up to obey the orders of those above them, and as long as those orders are legal then they have to abide by them. If for some reason you object, there are ways to seperate (religious or moral) and go work for Google...:)
 
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