While totally unrelated to the subject of this thread, I just wanted to point out that St. John's (Annapolis) admissions is based almost exclusively on performance on numerous entrance essays. I don't think the SAT is required. It is a weird little school for sure. All of the classes are done in the "tutorial" style, which harkens back to the system at Oxford/Cambridge etc. I spent a summer at Oxford while I was at VMI, and personally enjoyed the close interaction with the professors; however, they really do scrutinize you beyond what you get in a typical classroom setting. At St. John's, there are no grades, and the classwork is based on reading the "great books" at the source (i.e. no textbooks). It's very writing intensive, or at least that is my understanding. You can always spot a St. John's kid in Annapolis, just like you can always spot a mid. St. John's has their own uniform...very beatnick chic. It's interesting that the two schools are so close, but so VERY VERY different.