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Consider it like this, no need to memorize the whole thing, but become familiar with it.


Of course the cadre wouldn't be happy if you shaved your head before you show up, but they'll also love your hippie long hair too, if you don't get a conservative cut the week before you report. I remember some of those people...and other cadre remembered too.


There is no harm in learning some of it, and unlike shaving your head, no one else will know unless you inform them.
 
LineInTheSand said:
Maybe that's just the "old school" way...for sailors who sailed on the USS Consitution while it was still operational...I'm going to go with that.............There is no harm in learning some of (Reef Points)
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Learning Reef Points prior to induction is defeating the purpose of the evolution. There is the easy way and the correct way. Do it right. Most of these midshipmen, once they enter the fleet, will be placed in difficult stressful situations where they will have to multitask effectively perhaps to survive. Reef Points and Plebe Summer is the beginning of that journey. Don't cheat yourself out of it's full benefits. Play the game. Only your ego is at stake. Later, it may be your life.
 
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MIDNDAD said:
High school Academics - Most of you are massive over achievers, and loaded up on the tough AP courses. You and sometimes your parents have stressed over grades forever. Getting a B was a disaster and a simple A was just OK. My comment about going into cruise mode meant, stop stressing over having to get the perfect A in that AP physics class. Getting a B is just fine because it will allow you time to relax academically. Enjoy some academic down time while you have it.
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Wrong again. The validation program at USNA is a huge opportunity. One may think now that they do not want to validate in order to be able to 'skate' Plebe Year. However, once they get to USNA and have seen all the values of validating as much as they possibly can, they might change their mind. Some require a '5' on the AP test and some require a USNA validation test. Most will not have the results of the AP exams during the time frame that the validation tests are offered. Cruise mode could ruin a great opportunity. Don't slack off. You have come too far.


wolfemom said:
USNA69--what advice do YOU have for the plebes-to-be, not just academic, but overall advice for April to I-Day?
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We should leave this to those with more recent first hand experience than I. All I would say is to be in the best physical condition possible. Don't just run and ignore the upper body. If one is not comfortable in the water, spend some time at the pool. And most important of all, work on your sense of humor.
 
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Running is a vital part of plebe summer, so get in good running shape. The class of 2009 has a reputation for being "lax" in some companies, but plebe summer will be no easy feat. Conversely, the class of 2010 is known as a bunch of "Joes" and will be waiting for 2012 during the ac-year. Take '69's advice and don't slack in any area.

-GoNavyXC from collegeconfidential
 
cthornman said:
Oh and one more thing, if any of you mids at the Academy had any advice regarding the four years there, I would love to hear about it! :biggrin:
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Four words:

STUDY YOUR ASS OFF.

Ask me how I learned that. :mad:

As for the rest, I believe that USNA69 is batting 1.000 here. While I believe that reading Reef Points prior to arriving is a worthwhile activity, actually trying to memorize it will not only be a case of cheating yourself, but it most likely won't work. Memorizing the stuff while sitting on your couch at home will not permit you to rattle it back to an upperclassmen only inches from your nose, with your mommy nowhere in sight.

Play the game the way it's intended. It's built that way for a reason.
 
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i emailed my CGO and she told me that u wouldn't need to send in your final grades unless if it was a requirement on your appointment letter.
 
The Academy already knows what school you go to. They can always request it if you don't already send it to them.

Regardless, it doesn't really make sense if they don't request your final transcipt. If you are taking advanced/AP classes your final semester, they want to see how you do in them along with the rest of your previous semesters.

Botttom line - As a current mid, I can safely say DO NOT SLACK OFF and like Z said, "STUDY YOUR ASS OFF." You cannot afford to be that guy that doesn't keep up his grades during his last semester while everyone else nationwide does. You can relax when you are 55 and retire. For now, you applied and were accepted to the Naval Academy, so just keep on working hard like you hopefully will there.
 
pknguyen44 said:
i emailed my CGO and she told me that u wouldn't need to send in your final grades unless if it was a requirement on your appointment letter.
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Maybe your situation is different because of NAPS. I am not quite sure how it happens, but USNA does receive final high school grades and class standing. I think some high schools submit it automatically. And maybe they ask for the remainder. Unless things have changed recently, your USNA grade transcript will include high school class standing. Also, note the USNA Class profiles. They include class standings.
 
pknguyen44 said:
i emailed my CGO and she told me that u wouldn't need to send in your final grades unless if it was a requirement on your appointment letter.
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NAPS did require an official copy of our daughter's final transcript when she went up this past year. It was part of her Permit to Report paperwork was sent to her.
 
By the way navy_clarinet_mom, I was wondering when did your daughter report for NAPS?
 
The current class at NAPS had to report on Aug 8th. I know that they are working on getting the calendar approved for the NAPS Class of 2009. It will most likely be in the late part of summer (late July/early Aug) as Indoc is only 3 weeks for NAPSters.

Last year we did not get the official calendar until late May/early June. Just enjoy the summer that you have left. It will get here soon enough.
 
Summer is too short when you report for NAPS, especially because the calander comes out so late. Be sure to spend time with your friends. Once INDOC is over we had about a week of CDMI, briefs and cleaning then straight into academic year. I would be willing to bet that CAPT will probably want to push into ac year as hard as he can, so be prepared.

Don't bull**** your placement tests. Advanced really isn't that bad and most of the time I have less homework than my foundation classmates, plus there's a GPA boost for taking harder classes (a plus for liberty status!).

Mostly for NAPS, I say study hard, it will take you far. Just don't forget to enjoy yourself and take advantage of the awesome oppurtunities you have here.
 
USNA69 said:
LITS, please be aware of the rules for this particular forum:



Learning Reef Points prior to induction is defeating the purpose of the evolution. There is the easy way and the correct way. Do it right. Most of these midshipmen, once they enter the fleet, will be placed in difficult stressful situations where they will have to multitask effectively perhaps to survive. Reef Points and Plebe Summer is the beginning of that journey. Don't cheat yourself out of it's full benefits. Play the game. Only your ego is at stake. Later, it may be your life.
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USNA69, do not lecture anyone on here about the rules of the forum. I did not say YOU were a sailor of USS Consitution, however, if you are attempting to say you possibly were...I cannot argue.

There is nothing "wrong" with familiarizing yourself with it, in fact, you will be expected to do so once you get out (not something new in the last 40 years), and you will constantly multitask, taking advantage of advanced knowledge is not "cheating" yourself out of anything, nor will you be short-changing your "benefits". Part of the "game" is using what you have, not turning a blind eye to those publications available to you at this time.
 
USNA69 said:
Learning Reef Points prior to induction is defeating the purpose of the evolution. There is the easy way and the correct way. Do it right.
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Are you speaking officially as a USNA representative, stating USNA official policy?

I have yet to see any official stance on this from the USNA. I have seen your opinion, and I have seen more recent USNA graduates from the last 20 years or the last 10 years express an opinion that is 180 degrees opposite of yours. Even some current Mids disagree with you.

Perhaps you should label your posts as "your opinion" since they carry no official weight from the USNA?

A candidate may get the impression that you are officially speaking for the USNA when you advise that they do not read Reef Points.
 
Luigi59 said:
I have seen your opinion, and I have seen more recent USNA graduates from the last 20 years or the last 10 years express an opinion that is 180 degrees opposite of yours. Even some current Mids disagree with you.
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Where at? I reviewed all the posts and I saw Zaphod's, USNA69's, and my opinions on this subject. We all agreed that one shouldn't read Reef Points ahead of time. And I'm pretty sure that anyone reading this post can tell that they are our opinions.
 
So everyone is clear, I agree with looking at Reef Points before attending USNA.

In the fleet you will be expected to be proactive. Do I want my OSs reviewing OPORDERS only after I instruct them to? No, I want them constantly reviewing message traffic, understand instructions to the unit, and brief those who need to know. If we're doing boardings, do I want Boarding Team members to look at the District or Area LE SOP before the patrol, or right before a boarding? Hint: before a patrol. Unless you are told "DO NOT" look at Reef Points before you report, there is no reason not to. Learning the mission, or How the Cow is WILL NOT be the foundation for your future ability to multitask. If it is, either the Navy has failed you or you are not being put in a tight spot. I don't look back at my Swab Summer and think "Ah yes, she walks she talks she's full of chalk..." and I don't think how "Valuable" that information was. I bought CGA's version, the Running Light before I reported, and to tell you the truth, it's not that much easier to remember as multiple 2/c is screaming at you while you do facing movements with an M-1 rifle.

Your career will present many instances where using anything available would have benefitted you, so don't wait for someone to say "now do it".
 
I think we all realize that there are differing opinions on the subject and no one is backing down. Can we just end that argument?
 
No no no Soylent, I MUST BE RIGHT! and declared winner!!!


I agree though,


For prospective midshipmen (and cadets), you've heard both sides...now you can do whatever you want with regard to Reef Points.
 
KaMiKaZi said:
Where at? I reviewed all the posts and I saw Zaphod's, USNA69's, and my opinions on this subject. We all agreed that one shouldn't read Reef Points ahead of time. And I'm pretty sure that anyone reading this post can tell that they are our opinions.
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There is a very long thread at CC if you wish to review it. This debate has been going on at other forums, not just here. You, Zaphod, and USNA69 are not the only USNA opinions that have been given, nor are they the only ones worth listening to. There are many others than have added opinions contrary to yours and they are just as relevant.
 
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