He is a consummate leader - a quiet but resolute example to others.
I don't know to what extent his integrity or character have been tested. But you would be surprised how survival instincts take over under high pressure and the line between right and wrong is blurred.He shows more integrity and character than befits someone his age.
Interesting, an 18 year old "consummate leader"...I hope this is a joke. What kind of command experience does he have? I'm sure a ton of senior enlisted and commissioned officers who have successfully commanded large units wouldn't refer to themselves as consummate leaders.
I don't know to what extent his integrity or character have been tested. But you would be surprised how survival instincts take over under high pressure and the line between right and wrong is blurred.
Interesting, an 18 year old "consummate leader"...I hope this is a joke. What kind of command experience does he have? I'm sure a ton of senior enlisted and commissioned officers who have successfully commanded large units wouldn't refer to themselves as consummate leaders.
I don't know to what extent his integrity or character have been tested. But you would be surprised how survival instincts take over under high pressure and the line between right and wrong is blurred.
Interesting, an 18 year old "consummate leader"...I hope this is a joke. What kind of command experience does he have? I'm sure a ton of senior enlisted and commissioned officers who have successfully commanded large units wouldn't refer to themselves as consummate leaders.
I don't know to what extent his integrity or character have been tested. But you would be surprised how survival instincts take over under high pressure and the line between right and wrong is blurred.
There are certainly leaders outside of military commands (I would suggest leaving comments about leadership at military commands to the people who actually have SOME experience in that area.
And of course, unless you've dealt with a survival situation, I think that's an area you can avoid lecturing others about...
"But LITS, I wore a Gumby suit in cold water...."
Don't think I've ever worn a gumby suit in cold water or been in actual cold water, sounds like an unpleasant experience I'd rather leave to the folks of the USCG. I wasn't speaking from experience...I was regurgitating what a retired O-6 (USN) told me.
But, all this notwithstanding, I'm sure most rational people would agree with me, that the 18 year old plebe at the Naval Academy is not as consummate a leader as his mother professes him to be.
Again, you have no basis for that comment. There are certainly leaders plebe or plebe summer. Maybe not at USMMA, but we had them at CGA, and I don't doubt USNA has the same. (Maybe it takes more than two weeks of summer camp at KP to weed out the leaders?)
Regarding gumby suits, generally it's the Coast Guard plucking mariners out of the water wearing them (not the Coasties themselves wearing them).
I'm guessing the fact you haven't donned one means you haven't been at sea yet...
Don't think I've ever worn a gumby suit in cold water or been in actual cold water
I can't recall if we had leaders at summer camp (don't think so), but the plebe's mother didn't simply call him a 'leader'. I wouldn't have taken offense to that, she called him a 'consummate leader'.
Consummate: showing a high degree of skill and flair; complete or perfect
If the plebe is already a consummate leader (complete or perfect), then why am I wasting the DoD's budget in putting him through the Naval Academy? Might as well commission him and rank him up to admiral today.
In addition, read closely, I said:
I didn't say that I had never donned one. I've donned them many times, inflated my clothes, swam in khakis for an hour or whatever, etc all the standard stuff.
So again, you haven't been to sea... (a pool doesn't count as "sea")
Secondly, it doesn't take a school to make a leader, some come by it naturally. It does, however, take a commissioning source to make an officer.
"We're sorry, you're too much of a leader to come to our school or become a Naval officer...."
That's really irrelevant and off topic to this whole discussion.
You clearly don't grasp hyperbole.
Zero experience in leadership positions. Zero experience in life threatening situations. Zero experience as a plebe at a military academy. Zero experience with the military.
I'd say the most irrelevant thing in this entire thread has been your uninformed "advice".
Absolutely...I definitely lack the astute decision making skills that you acquired during your Swab Summer and the mind numbing leadership abilities that were honed by wearing your backpack on a single shoulder during your 4th Class year. I lack the technical skills and mechanical ingenuity which you displayed during your career in servicing ATONs and the precise observational skills which enabled you to detect deficiencies and issue citations for expired inspections and other violations. I lack the courage and discipline which you displayed in answering distress calls and risking your life in bringing sailors and seamen 'home from the sea'. Oh...wait, I think that those courageous men came from Cape May, not New London. I lack the grit, determination, and guts which you exemplified in interdicting that sliver of the gross amount of drugs and migrants flowing into America, while the majority of the drugs/migrants made it to the streets and became state/local law enforcement's problem.