Army ROTC 3rd Scholarship Board Results

Would the upgrades from 3 to 4 year have been updated at the same time as the 3rd board scholarship offers were released?
 
One of my DS friends got an email from her school today saying she got a scholarship, but her status still says boarded. Are they still rolling these out?
 
Is it normal that those who got upgraded just had their portal change and didn't get an email? Just seemed odd to me....
 
gill0610 said:
Is it normal that those who got upgraded just had their portal change and didn't get an email? Just seemed odd to me....
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My DD has not received the email yet, but her status says winner - 3 year. When can she expect the email?
 
Creativefrau said:
One of my DS friends got an email from her school today saying she got a scholarship, but her status still says boarded. Are they still rolling these out?
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I'm sure all the updates have been made, ROO's receive the list of scholarship winners prior to the updates, they are told not to make contact because the list is still under review and could change by the time they make the updates. That being said she should call the school's ROTC and double check to see what her status is and if she was indeed offered the scholarship, they should know for sure now since the official updates have been made.
 
Jcleppe said:
mrs said:
Jcleppe said:
Creativefrau said:
Looks like my DS didn't get selected for the national scholarship. We have heard about reservist scholarships. Does anybody have any experience with that route? Requirements? Pros and cons?
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He would have to join the National Guard/Reserves, the scholarship through the Guard would be the GRFD, the scholarship pays the same as the National scholarship, the one caveat is that when he commissions he would be commissioned into the National Guard/Reserves, he would not be able to go Active Duty.
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TRANSITIONING TO AND FROM ACTIVE DUTY
If you’re considering a transition from your Army Reserve unit to Active Duty status, contact your local recruiter. He or she will be able to determine if you are eligible to transfer, and will assist you in the process.

Pick up a DD Form 368 Conditional Release from your Army Reserve unit. Your recruiter can help you fill out the form. The first general level Officer in your chain of command must sign off on this form. It's a lot easier in the reserves due to your commander and a recruiter can work together to get you out. Even with a ROTC Scholarship you have to compete for AD as a commissioned officer they give each cadet an OML in college and the top get commissioned into AD the others get commissioned but in the Reserves, this is from reading military forums and asking questions. So even with a ROTC scholarship you are not guaranteed AD. That is how I am reading what others have written.
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Sounds good in theory, but getting that DD368 approved is a different story, especially if the Guard/Reserve paid for any of your schooling.
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From everything I have read even if you have a full scholarship at university you are not guaranteed AD, you are given an oml and they pick the top 50%, and ECP are also put in that equation. So if you chose ECP your getting a 4 year scholarship so pick a Major that you can do on the civilian side as well, my son's major will be Pharmacist it can be used on both sides. I also read that once he gets to the University he is a commissioned officer so he does not have to do ROTC, he can put 100% into his studies.
 
mrs said:
From everything I have read even if you have a full scholarship at university you are not guaranteed AD, you are given an oml and they pick the top 50%, and ECP are also put in that equation. So if you chose ECP your getting a 4 year scholarship so pick a Major that you can do on the civilian side as well, my son's major will be Pharmacist it can be used on both sides. I also read that once he gets to the University he is a commissioned officer so he does not have to do ROTC, he can put 100% into his studies.
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It is true, cadets on the traditional scholarship at a 4 year university ROTC program are not guaranteed AD. At the end of their 3rd year and after they complete CLC they are placed on a National OML based on several factors. Many cadets choose to serve in either the National Guard or Reserves each year, the remaining cadets are placed on the OML to be selected for AD or sent to NG/Reserves. Your percentage is a bit off, of the cadets that actually compete for AD the number selected has been around 75% plus, I think it was even a bit higher this year.

The issue is the ECP cadets, while they tell them they are on the same OML, there is more to it. ECP cadets need to request to be released from their Guard obligation. QA1517 can give you more detail on this but here is the short version. Their son's ECP class had over 20 cadets request the release, the PMS only recommended 3 cadets, of those I don't believe any were granted the release. The next years class were all recommended by the PMS for release, again none were granted. All these cadets are now finishing up their degrees and drilling as a 2LT while they complete their degrees, when they graduate they will serve their obligation to the Army in the Guard/Reserves. These cadets were also told the same thing they are telling you, while everything they say is technically true, it hasn't turned out that way. In the end they can do what they want with these cadets since they are required to apply for a release.

I can only advise that your son does a lot of research and realize that in the ECP program things can change with little to no notice, and it's not always as they sell it. If your son wants a chance at AD Amy the best route is still to go through traditional ROTC or SMC

You are correct that once an ECP cadet leaves the Junior Military College they are commissioned a 2LT, they will however not attend BOLC. While they won't have to participate in ROTC they will have to attend weekend drill once a month and have summer training. The one weekend a month can take away some of that 100% focus on studies depending on what and where he drills. He will also need to find a Guard/Reserve unit that has an open slot for an ECP 2LT that has not completed BOLC, that is not always an easy thing to do.

Traditional ROTC is pretty straight forward, the ECP program can have a lot of twists and turns along the way. Again, don't take everything they tell you at these programs at face value, look hard behind the curtain.
 
mrs said:
... So if you chose ECP your getting a 4 year scholarship so pick a Major that you can do on the civilian side as well, my son's major will be Pharmacist it can be used on both sides. I also read that once he gets to the University he is a commissioned officer so he does not have to do ROTC, he can put 100% into his studies.
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Tread with caution pursuing a Pharmacy degree via ROTC. ROTC primary purpose it to provide line officers with Bachelor degrees. A Pharmacist (67E) requires a doctorate degree for an officer in the Army. This can't be achieved in 4 years on an ROTC scholarship. Pharmacy Doctorate schools require prerequisites courses and the PCAT for admissions. There might be a way for a Pharm D. degree via ROTC with an educational delay and HPSP combination but this is not an option if the ECP commitment is to the Reserves/NG.

Is he planning a Bachelor Degree in Pharmaceutical Science? If so, he would not be a commissioned Pharmacist. He could be a line officer with that degree though. A Bachelor Degree in Pharmaceutical Science would be tough academically in a 2+2 program coming from an MJC.
 
CapeMom said:
gill0610 said:
Is it normal that those who got upgraded just had their portal change and didn't get an email? Just seemed odd to me....
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My DD has not received the email yet, but her status says winner - 3 year. When can she expect the email?
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I received a 3yr AD scholarship on the second board that was then subsequently upgraded to a 4yr. Regardless, I never received an email telling me I got a scholarship. However, a copy of my winner letter was uploaded within a few days to my "file upload" page within the portal. Confirmation came in the mail with a winner packet within 10 days.
 
MichUSNA2021hopefulparent said:
usarmy87 said:
Son went from 3 year to 4 year. Very happy! Good luck to all
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How were you notified of the change from 3 to 4 year email?
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He was driving to his college visit and his liaison called him to tell him. Very very helpful. We heard this is very rare. He got it by contacting liaison to confirm that his 3year acceptance letter had been received. In that letter he explained how wanted to get under contract asap and was there anything he could do to get 4year. It was then recommended that he redo his fitness test. After soccer, swim team and beginning of track season he maxed out the run. Then BAM he got it. Waiting to hear from West Point but something tells me he has lost interest in that direction.
 
MohawkArmyROTC said:
The 3rd Board results will be published by the end of this week. Good luck.
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My DS received an e mail on Friday saying his status had changed and to check portal but is still listed as Boarded (I.e. Unchanged).

Would you happen to know what this means?
 
Is anyone having trouble getting onto the application section of the portal. We are getting a General issue warning.

My son was listed as a winner on the portal and received a call from his ROO. He has not received any email from ROTC. How long does that normally take?
 
Keep in mind.... Some who wanted guard and reserve this year were told no and had to go AD. This my be a trend for the near future. Be prepared to serve the needs of the Army.
 
No email is sent from cadet command, winners will receive a letter in the mail.
 
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