Appointments 2022

My DS was honored to receive a nom to his preferred academy but also received an unexpected nom to USMA. DS had to quickly complete the application process, finishing it on Feb 26. Interestingly, another applicant from our district received an appointment on the 26th, prior to the application deadline. Am I correct in assuming that this applicant (congrats!): 1) was the principal nominee on the slate if it was ranked, or 2) was charged to another nom source (ROTC)?
 
@SAnew22. You cannot assume anything and will only worry needlessly in the attempt. Seriously, do not even attempt to game it. It could have been a presidential nom, a senatorial nom, an SD/Vet nom. You can have no idea and frankly the kid receiving the appointment may not even be able to tell you if you call to ask. Your congressman may only have 1 slot filled at USMA right now. Also, people will fall off between now and 1 May--maybe get in to Harvard or MIT--decide a service academy is not really the path to follow. Do not make yourself crazy trying to figure it out--and how it impacts your son's chances.
 
i guess the question was more to clarify my understanding of the complicated process... if only looking at a competitive slate, no candidate from our congressional district slate would be appointed until after the 2/28 application deadline so all applicants could be considered? since this was not the case (another applicant from our district was accepted just prior to the deadline), that individual would have either been the primary nom on our slate or had an additional nomination that his appointment was charged to? i understand there can be multiple appointments from the same district if there are multiple openings.
 
SAnew22 said:
i guess the question was more to clarify my understanding of the complicated process... if only looking at a competitive slate, no candidate from our congressional district slate would be appointed until after the 2/28 application deadline so all applicants could be considered? since this was not the case (another applicant from our district was accepted just prior to the deadline), that individual would have either been the primary nom on our slate or had an additional nomination that his appointment was charged to? i understand there can be multiple appointments from the same district if there are multiple openings.
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SAnew22, Chances are they had more than one nomination, my DD 2021 had 2 Senatorial nominations and 1 Congressional nomination, she did receive an Appointment and also received congratulatory phone calls from two of the three on her Appointment. The third lost her reelection bid and was out of office when DD got the BFE. Another recruited athlete from district had received her Appointment two weeks prior. We do not know which Appointment my DD was assigned to.
 
SAnew22 said:
i guess the question was more to clarify my understanding of the complicated process... if only looking at a competitive slate, no candidate from our congressional district slate would be appointed until after the 2/28 application deadline so all applicants could be considered? since this was not the case (another applicant from our district was accepted just prior to the deadline), that individual would have either been the primary nom on our slate or had an additional nomination that his appointment was charged to? i understand there can be multiple appointments from the same district if there are multiple openings.
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Could also have been a prep schooler in your district in which case that slate may have been won before it even started. The key is until you get a TWE there is always a chance. Trying to analyze it will only serve to drive you crazy.
 
Parent of 4 said:
SAnew22 said:
i guess the question was more to clarify my understanding of the complicated process... if only looking at a competitive slate, no candidate from our congressional district slate would be appointed until after the 2/28 application deadline so all applicants could be considered? since this was not the case (another applicant from our district was accepted just prior to the deadline), that individual would have either been the primary nom on our slate or had an additional nomination that his appointment was charged to? i understand there can be multiple appointments from the same district if there are multiple openings.
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Could also have been a prep schooler in your district in which case that slate may have been won before it even started. The key is until you get a TWE there is always a chance. Trying to analyze it will only serve to drive you crazy.
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What? A prepster in the district has nothing to do with the who wins the slate. Reality is that a Prepster will not beat out most qualified applicants in a contest for the MOC slate because they were "NOT QUALIFIED" the year before. Prep school will help them get ready for the academic rigor of West Point, but it does not work miracles. If they had low 20 ACT scores, they do not magically jump to 30s after that year. We should not spread things like this.

But back to the OP, you understanding is mostly correct. There are a few other scenarios but competitive slates are typically not resolved until after the application deadline. There is no way to know unless you are told by your RC.
 
USMA 1994 said:
Parent of 4 said:
SAnew22 said:
i guess the question was more to clarify my understanding of the complicated process... if only looking at a competitive slate, no candidate from our congressional district slate would be appointed until after the 2/28 application deadline so all applicants could be considered? since this was not the case (another applicant from our district was accepted just prior to the deadline), that individual would have either been the primary nom on our slate or had an additional nomination that his appointment was charged to? i understand there can be multiple appointments from the same district if there are multiple openings.
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Could also have been a prep schooler in your district in which case that slate may have been won before it even started. The key is until you get a TWE there is always a chance. Trying to analyze it will only serve to drive you crazy.
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What? A prepster in the district has nothing to do with the who wins the slate. Reality is that a Prepster will not beat out most qualified applicants in a contest for the MOC slate because they were "NOT QUALIFIED" the year before. Prep school will help them get ready for the academic rigor of West Point, but it does not work miracles. If they had low 20 ACT scores, they do not magically jump to 30s after that year. We should not spread things like this.

But back to the OP, you understanding is mostly correct. There are a few other scenarios but competitive slates are typically not resolved until after the application deadline. There is no way to know unless you are told by your RC.
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I guess I wasn’t really clear, I was referring to AOG’s at civil prep who were absolutely qualified the year before.
 
Enthalpy said:
SAnew22 said:
i guess the question was more to clarify my understanding of the complicated process... if only looking at a competitive slate, no candidate from our congressional district slate would be appointed until after the 2/28 application deadline so all applicants could be considered? since this was not the case (another applicant from our district was accepted just prior to the deadline), that individual would have either been the primary nom on our slate or had an additional nomination that his appointment was charged to? i understand there can be multiple appointments from the same district if there are multiple openings.
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SAnew22, Chances are they had more than one nomination, my DD 2021 had 2 Senatorial nominations and 1 Congressional nomination, she did receive an Appointment and also received congratulatory phone calls from two of the three on her Appointment. The third lost her reelection bid and was out of office when DD got the BFE. Another recruited athlete from district had received her Appointment two weeks prior. We do not know which Appointment my DD was assigned to.
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I wonder if all the nominations really matter. My son has 4 nominations, among them a presidential. Yet no LOE or LOA. Straight A student ,IB, 2nd in his class. Plays several sports a year and comes from a military line of service ( family) . I am hopeful the Academy will see his worth and send him a nomination this spring but I am slowly becoming more comfortable with his plan B. He has already been given a 4 year ROTC scholarship for UGA. He will make a fine officer one way or another. Although I do believe that Westpoint is the right fit for him.
 
Parent3 said:
I wonder if all the nominations really matter. My son has 4 nominations, among them a presidential. Yet no LOE or LOA. Straight A student ,IB, 2nd in his class. Plays several sports a year and comes from a military line of service ( family) . I am hopeful the Academy will see his worth and send him a nomination this spring but I am slowly becoming more comfortable with his plan B. He has already been given a 4 year ROTC scholarship for UGA. He will make a fine officer one way or another. Although I do believe that Westpoint is the right fit for him.
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When did your son start his application? That may have determined whether or not he received a LOE. This is just a guess, of course. My DD started her application early and then slowed a bit in September and that is when she got her LOE.
 
thank you for all the replies. i was really not trying to 'guess' the chances for my DS. i was simply trying to understand the process for the competitive slate since my original understanding was that all the applications for those on the slate had to be submitted before anyone was appointed. i will now assume the individual that was appointed (prior to the application deadline) was an excellent candidate with an additional nom that he was potentially charged to.
 
KYparent said:
Parent3 said:
I wonder if all the nominations really matter. My son has 4 nominations, among them a presidential. Yet no LOE or LOA. Straight A student ,IB, 2nd in his class. Plays several sports a year and comes from a military line of service ( family) . I am hopeful the Academy will see his worth and send him a nomination this spring but I am slowly becoming more comfortable with his plan B. He has already been given a 4 year ROTC scholarship for UGA. He will make a fine officer one way or another. Although I do believe that Westpoint is the right fit for him.
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When did your son start his application? That may have determined whether or not he received a LOE. This is just a guess, of course. My DD started her application early and then slowed a bit in September and that is when she got her LOE.
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His application was completed in November
 
USMA 1994 said:
MRT22-17 said:
I think it mostly depends on when you got your packet complete. I'm not a direct appt or athlete and I got mine last week. One thing I read on a different thread is they are going to "build the class" over the next few months based on who accepts/declines, and what quotas they need to meet as well(athletes, prior service, etc.). Just stay positive, and stay focused on school!
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It really has nothing to do with how early you complete your packet, (it does not to be completed prior to an offer) and there are no real quotas. The process is driven by the types of nominations and how you can be slotted. This first wave you are seeing now are Presidential Nominations, Service Connected Nominations, LOA holders, and clear slate winners. These individuals have a nomination source to be slotted against and are ranked high enough on a slate to get an offer. More than half of the incoming class has an MOC nomination. Everyone nominated on that slate needs to complete their application and be evaluated before an offer is made. The application deadline is not for another six weeks so the majority of appointments occur after that.
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"We have received all your application information and the Admissions Committee has qualified your file. West Point has eliminated rolling admissions for this cycle. As such, all qualified applicants are placed on a National Waiting List until appointments are made. Most appointments will be tendered between 26 February and 1 May 2018. "

Direct quote from the 3Q letter. This is apparently the timeline we all deal with now.

Good luck all.
 
Thank you for your response. I think in many ways the parents , including myself are more interested in the process than the students. My son is so calm and seems unaffected by the wait time. Good luck to all of you.
 
Parent3 said:
Thank you for your response. I think in many ways the parents , including myself are more interested in the process than the students. My son is so calm and seems unaffected by the wait time. Good luck to all of you.
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Parent of3,
I’m curious if what region do you belong, is it SE? I say this because it’s the same with what’s happening with my DD. She did not received any 3Q letter although the RC is keeping her updated since she continues to ask for her status. The latest one was about 3 weeks ago when the RC told her that he is reviewing her file for qualification and it’s all good to go. She’s also a military dependent like your DS.
 
Pipo said:
Parent3 said:
Thank you for your response. I think in many ways the parents , including myself are more interested in the process than the students. My son is so calm and seems unaffected by the wait time. Good luck to all of you.
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Parent of3,
I’m curious if what region do you belong, is it SE? I say this because it’s the same with what’s happening with my DD. She did not received any 3Q letter although the RC is keeping her updated since she continues to ask for her status. The latest one was about 3 weeks ago when the RC told her that he is reviewing her file for qualification and it’s all good to go. She’s also a military dependent like your DS.
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Yes we are from the SE region as well.
 
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