Reapplicants beware (all academies)

Maplerock said:
You were rejected once already. What makes you think that the second time will be a charm?

High school is a much easier place to build a stellar gpa and extracurricular resume than college. You have already put your heart and soul into your application once, and now you have to do it again.

The actual application will be easier. You know the ropes. Heck, you can even use lots of the info on the new applications. You know the congressional part too. If you got a nomination once, you can probably do it again.

The problem is, you have absolutely no control over the admissions committee and the secret sauce they use on the application process. They didn't want you this year, so why would they want you next year? You're probably the same sex and race as last time. You may include a semester of great college grades, but it's doubtful you'll crush the leadership and athletic components. High school is easier for that.

You have perseverance, and everyone loves that. Will that be enough? Maybe. Reapplicants do get in. I'd love to see the numbers though. I've seen the posts from successful reapps. I've also seen posts from folks turned down twice, going for three!

So why write this? To discourage you? No. Just don't get the idea that you'll be automatic. You won't. Remember that there are other ways to get a commission. Maybe that's for you. I imagine there was some great heartache out there after your TWE. If you do decide to work hard and put your faith in the admissions committee, best of luck to you.

I do believe hard work pays off, but sometimes the payoff isn't the one you expect.
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Maplerock said:
You were rejected once already. What makes you think that the second time will be a charm?

High school is a much easier place to build a stellar gpa and extracurricular resume than college. You have already put your heart and soul into your application once, and now you have to do it again.

The actual application will be easier. You know the ropes. Heck, you can even use lots of the info on the new applications. You know the congressional part too. If you got a nomination once, you can probably do it again.

The problem is, you have absolutely no control over the admissions committee and the secret sauce they use on the application process. They didn't want you this year, so why would they want you next year? You're probably the same sex and race as last time. You may include a semester of great college grades, but it's doubtful you'll crush the leadership and athletic components. High school is easier for that.

You have perseverance, and everyone loves that. Will that be enough? Maybe. Reapplicants do get in. I'd love to see the numbers though. I've seen the posts from successful reapps. I've also seen posts from folks turned down twice, going for three!

So why write this? To discourage you? No. Just don't get the idea that you'll be automatic. You won't. Remember that there are other ways to get a commission. Maybe that's for you. I imagine there was some great heartache out there after your TWE. If you do decide to work hard and put your faith in the admissions committee, best of luck to you.

I do believe hard work pays off, but sometimes the payoff isn't the one you expect.
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Does anyone know how many college re-applicants there are per year? In the co'2027 snapshot it says that 336 Plebes come "from college and post-high school preparatory programs". Minus the NAPSters and prep programs, that leaves only 97 people who "have completed at least one semester of study at a college or university". This makes me think admissions limits the amount of appointments for non-foundation college re-applicants to <100 per year. Does anyone know how many out of the ~14,700 applicants fall under this category? I read on a post a while back that its ~2,000 - 5000. Using these two figures gives a 5% - 2% acceptance rate for college reapplicants. Those odds are a little daunting...
 
navy/airforce-hopeful man said:
Does anyone know how many college re-applicants there are per year? In the co'2027 snapshot it says that 336 Plebes come "from college and post-high school preparatory programs". Minus the NAPSters and prep programs, that leaves only 97 people who "have completed at least one semester of study at a college or university". This makes me think admissions limits the amount of appointments for non-foundation college re-applicants to <100 per year. Does anyone know how many out of the ~14,700 applicants fall under this category? I read on a post a while back that its ~2,000 - 5000. Using these two figures gives a 5% - 2% acceptance rate for college reapplicants. Those odds are a little daunting...
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For what it’s worth, about 20ish of that “some college” number are one of two categories… appointees who were injured prior to I-Day and had to repeat the application, nomination, waiver process. And your plebes who were turned back for injury during plebe year requiring surgery/rehab/civ coll before reporting to repeat Plebe Summer and join the next class. My plebe, and two others we know were the first type. And two females in his company were the second type. They are addressed as a group by admissions when their board meets in the spring to extend appointment (2.0) offers.
 
Remember, you are competing with the people who are on the slate for your specific nomination categories, not against other college re-applicants, or people who are out in the Fleet or Corps. You can only control certain things. Worrying about how many college re-applicants get in is a lot of stress that is not needed (or within your power to change).
 
The original post was from 2018 and most of those replying at that time are probably no longer active here. It would be better to start a new thread with your question so it is clearer what specific question people are responding to. There are an endless number of questions in the 'how many......?' when applying to an SA and you can find a lot of older threads. There are also an endless number of calculations you can make in an effort to determine your chance for success. Honestly, none of those matter since you will either get an appointment or you won't. Generally, these are all variations of the 'what are my chances?' threads. Some stats include NAPS while others do not when it comes to talking about those entering an SA who are at least 1 yr removed from high school.

Applying to any highly selective college involves the chance you may not get selected, hopefully ALL SA applicants realize this. Are you more/less likely to apply based on the % answer to specific questions you might ask? As it relates to getting a MOC NOM, you are competing with those applying this year on that particular slate. Every SA advises applicants to apply for EVERY NOM for which they are eligible. A MOC NOM is NOT the only way to get a NOM. The criteria to be 3Q is determined by the SA and is the same for everyone applying regardless of where they live.
 
navy/airforce-hopeful man said:
Minus the NAPSters and prep programs, that leaves only 97 people who "have completed at least one semester of study at a college or university"
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USMCfam said:
about 20ish of that “some college” number are one of two categories
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There are a lot of assumptions being made in the preceding posts..including whether USNA include NAPS in the 336 with post high school experience (they may well, but there is no interpretation guide to the Class Profile)., and I think the 20ish number for roll backs is high (ie. it happens, but is rare).

Yes, this thread is old, and I disagree with the initial premise that a re applicant is already a one time loser and has an uphill battle. Of course, if you were already not very competitive, trying again probably won't change the outcome, but if you are one of those that was competitive until the end, perhaps even waitlisted, then trying again might give that extra boost to get in. Bottom line, be realistic in expectations --
 
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