2 week NROTC Orientation - Middle of the Summer?

Well, if waivers aren't granted then she will not be able to participate in NROTC beyond that point. I suppose one might call that a waste of time. Others might call it an opportunity to experience and learn something they otherwise would not have experienced.
 
DD is University of Minnesota Twin Cities NROTC-MO and will be participating in indoc at Great Lakes. Still dealing with a crapton of AMIs through DoDMERB and hoping for a waiver, but their website is down for 16 days for upgrades and maintenance. She's got to proceed as if she's a green light until they say no waiver. Proud of her, but wow! It's taking strength and perseverance on her part!
I got the letter for the indoc at Great Lakes, but I'm not DoDMERB qualified (pending waiver for months already). I was told by unit that I could not attend indoc since my waivers weren't granted
My DD also can attend indoc while not being medically waived, but will have to hand-deliver a sports physical from her physician saying she is physically able to complete indoc. The question is, will it end up being a waste of time if waivers aren't granted. Sure to be a learning experience whatever the outcome!
That's odd. I'm not sure why my unit is telling me I can't attend. Perhaps they don't want me wasting my time if my waivers aren't granted?
 
My DS says he needs to bring a copy of his DOBMERB to Indoc but the site is down. I saw that someone posted that it would be down until the 29th? When he was on the site after his physical it said he was good, unfortunately he didn't print it out at that time. Should I suggest to him that he get a sports physical at a local clinic? I'm guessing many others will realize they have the same problem before they leave for Great Lakes. DS said he would email his unit coordinator tomorrow for guidance.
 
Well, if waivers aren't granted then she will not be able to participate in NROTC beyond that point. I suppose one might call that a waste of time. Others might call it an opportunity to experience and learn something they otherwise would not have experienced.
That's how DD is looking at it. Beats working at Best Buy! LOL! This process has made her a lot stronger already. (Big, long backstory about a medical DQ from CGA involved here - she's a fighter and just wants to serve!)
 
My DS says he needs to bring a copy of his DOBMERB to Indoc but the site is down. I saw that someone posted that it would be down until the 29th? When he was on the site after his physical it said he was good, unfortunately he didn't print it out at that time. Should I suggest to him that he get a sports physical at a local clinic? I'm guessing many others will realize they have the same problem before they leave for Great Lakes. DS said he would email his unit coordinator tomorrow for guidance.

That’s what we did to make sure DS could participate: it’s the backup plan. However, DS has been told his Qualified Letter is already on file for NROTC so not to sweat not being able to print it and bring it this weekend. But... just in case the left hand doesn’t know what the right one is saying... we’re bringing the physician’s physical. If he could have a backup plan for the backup plan, he would! He’s rip roaring to go!
 
Hoping someone who attends reports back here about it.
Here's an update, since you asked, Kinnem. DD wrote a "mandatory" letter home. Since she was at CGA last year for Swab Summer before being medically DQed, she has some experience with this type of thing. Last week they did PFEs (She passed, but her LT would like to see her do better), did some swim quals (Passed at 3c level), M9 quals (didn't pass as the recoil surprised her, but loved shooting!) and drilling with a gunnery sergeant (She thought that was cool!) She thought it was a little disorganized while they work out the first-time kinks, said the food is not bad and the best part is they don't have to square their meals. She said they haven't been PTd for punishment yet but is looking forward to that this week, LOL! That's all from her, which is more than I expected to hear mid-way through the program.
 
I just got out of the NROTC Indoc. Training and I can honestly say it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done in my life. The PT was grueling and I felt grossly underprepared despite training a lot beforehand. But I improved my PRT scores by A LOT in just the two weeks we were there. Many others had the same results. The experiences were a lot of fun: line handling, M9 live fire and laser training, firefighting, gas chamber, emergency water training, etc. The program itself was kind of chaotic and unorganized as a whole. There was some poor communication between the people running the program and the people actually implementing it. It was confusing and annoying at times. Most people’s flights got changed the day before we left because they realized that some mids were leaving before the program actually ended. There were also a decent amount of injuries (stress fractures and muscle pulls) and sickness going into the second week of training. The Midshipman Instructors (MI) and the Officers has to step back and give us more time for getting enough food, opportunities for hydration, and LOTS more time for cleaning and disenfecting everything and everyone. I enjoyed the experience (especially meeting my fellow mids) and would do it again even though it was so taxing mentally and physically. The MIs were phenomenal and I learned so much from them and all about their NROTC/college experiences. It was also crazy to see so many high ranking Officers dropping in on us. Admiral Bernacchi (in charge of 98% of Officer commissionings and the creator of the Indoc. Program) was supervising quite a lot. The Vice Chief also made time to come watch us complete the Combat Fitness Test. Next year once they work out the kinks, it will be even better for the mids. They’ll get even more training and all the uniforms, this year we only got 2 sets of Type III uniforms. It’s set to be a mandatory nationwide program for all scholarship recipients and possibly even college programmers. This update is kind of all over the place, but I hope you gleaned some useful information from it.
 
To add to the above: Our DS didn’t mention anything about disorganization, but he gleaned that the Midshipman Instructors (upperclassmen from NROTC units) were also learning their roles, adjusting their styles etc. along the way. Meals were only with the right hand, causing creativity challenges, and awkwardness for the lefthanded.

Units were split up between the platoons, so it is not a competition between units. Get ready to move around within the Navy...

Some logistics for families: DS received an email a few weeks in advance with flight reservation info, all he needed to check in and where to meet up for his next stage of travel. O’Hare has two USOs, one within the terminals, the other outside security: he checked the secure one first and was directed to the other. DS had brought the few items on the packing list in a small to mid-sized gym type duffle so he wouldn’t have to check his bag. This was great in the end because he was issued a Sea bag and the duffle fit inside it along with all the other uniform gear he was issued. So on the return trip he checked the Sea bag.

DS also wrote the letter home, a true gift! He called the Thursday before departure bc of others’ flight rearranging (i guess, his didn’t change), and lastly called once the program ended and he was waiting or en route. Hearing his voice was super, even on the voicemail bc we missed his first call. Next year it could be different of course.

DS also came away with a huge appreciation for non-comms (& envy of enlisted who could use both hands to eat). Given the training location, not surprising! But also super good for correct attitude. There’s no room for arrogance in a strong commander. And since the gunnies et al. often have masters degrees... DS quickly got the message he was out-educated and would be out-experienced when he first hits the fleet. Knowing something and some personnel in the “real” Navy was another terrific opportunity built into this program.

IMO...Some great training stories came home, and this is truly a great opportunity for the NROTC participants. Yes, they all came home with the Great Lakes version of plebe hack, but also a leg up on being ready to handle the transitions in freshman year and NROTC. The training was tough, but they covered a lot of ground and had opportunities to challenge themselves and succeed. RA Bernacchi and the others are definitely bettering the NROTC program with this indoc training. And... the candidates intuitively get why you don’t outpace the RA on the invitational run... even if they could’ve! (DS says Bernacchi sets a fast pace... is there another thread on the paces set by senior leadership i should cross-reference here?)
 
Our DS didn’t mention anything about disorganization, but he gleaned that the Midshipman Instructors (upperclassmen from NROTC units) were also learning their roles, adjusting their styles etc. along the way.
Makes sense, as they were, and will be every year with each new group of midshipmen. It's training for them too.
 
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