Westpoint preparation

Open comment to all hopefuls... don't memorize anything prior to r day if you are fortunate enough to secure admissions.

There is a method to the madness and a reason.

Part of the memorization exercises one will be required to undergo during r day and beyond is to help prepare your mind for acting under stress and pressure.

Not knowing general knowledge will not be near as detrimental as knowing answers to questions day one... you will stick out like a sore thumb and will most likely gain the immediate attention of the firstie nearest you. Don't be that plebe!

There will be ample time to learn what you need to learn. Please don't start memorizing anything from bugle notes...

Instead focus on what you can control and enjoy your time with family and friends.

Just my two cents.
Understood, thank you.
 
Im not sure i know what you mean by boys state though.
Step one - Google "Your State" Boy's State
Step two - go to the Boy's State site for your state
Step three - Speak to your guidance counselor about who from your school went to Boy's State last year. If there were any, they will be seniors (you go at end of Junior Year)
Step four - Indicate your interest through your guidance counselor and/or your local American Legion post.
 
Im not sure i know what you mean by boys state though.
Step one - Google "Your State" Boy's State
Step two - go to the Boy's State site for your state
Step three - Speak to your guidance counselor about who from your school went to Boy's State last year. If there were any, they will be seniors (you go at end of Junior Year)
Step four - Indicate your interest through your guidance counselor and/or your local American Legion post.
That's what im doing, thanks. To be completely honest im not sure im eligible, i dont have much leadership experience. Im trying to build on it but im not sure what i can do in my area, it's a small town and small school.
 
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Open comment to all hopefuls... don't memorize anything prior to r day if you are fortunate enough to secure admissions.

There is a method to the madness and a reason.

Part of the memorization exercises one will be required to undergo during r day and beyond is to help prepare your mind for acting under stress and pressure.

Not knowing general knowledge will not be near as detrimental as knowing answers to questions day one... you will stick out like a sore thumb and will most likely gain the immediate attention of the firstie nearest you. Don't be that plebe!

There will be ample time to learn what you need to learn. Please don't start memorizing anything from bugle notes...

Instead focus on what you can control and enjoy your time with family and friends.

Just my two cents.

This is very sound advice..........Don't be New Cadet Know it All............once you become that New Cadet (not plebe, as you won't be a plebe at Beast), you will probably not shake it for the remainder of Beast. DD told us of a couple of NC's who made Beast a lot harder than they needed to. They teach you what you need to know, when you need to know it, and as is noted above, there is a method and madness to it. Great advice to the prospective 2023's who are waiting by their mailbox right now!
 
Great catch Goat on new cadet versus plebe! Lol.... they will understand the difference on R Day and A Day!
 
Did you already get an appointment to West Point?

I just looked up the OP's past posts. It appears that he is still only a junior in High School.

From my perspective, it is a bit too soon to be talking "boots" here.

https://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/what-should-i-do-grades.65171/
Based on the above linked post, it would be far more productive for the OP to focus on improving his chemistry and pre-calculus grade than to be on this board discussing R-Day.

Just my opinion.
I know, just thinking ahead. Im currently getting my grades up.
Clearly you are very excited about the prospect of joining West Point and I am excited for you. Don't let up on that mission as your end goal. Right now is time to hunker down academically, physically and mentally because it is a long haul and you can't get these days back once they are gone. Listen to the advice of these seasoned parents and admins and take ACTION to get yourself ready to submit the best file you possibly can. If you don't have a basketball, get one and practice your CFA, be like Forrest Gump and run everywhere, find opportunities in your community and school to be a leader, apply to attend Boys State this summer (super important for WCS points) and finally...work extra hard on improving GPA if needed. Good Luck!
Thank you so much. Will do. My GPA is definately not where i know it should be but I'm working on it. As far as athletics and fitness go, I've been going hard at the gym for almost 3 monthes now. Leadership improvement is another value I need to work on. Im not sure i know what you mean by boys state though.
Boys State is another leadership opportunity that is hosted by the American Legion in every state. You can only attend during the summer after your junior year but you should be submitting your application as soon as you can. Here is a link for eligibility and processes in each state https://www.legion.org/boysnation/websites. Attending this one week leadership opportunity ranks well with WP in your candidate score and you will learn much about how the government works. Hope this helps you on your journey!
 
Im not sure i know what you mean by boys state though.
Step one - Google "Your State" Boy's State
Step two - go to the Boy's State site for your state
Step three - Speak to your guidance counselor about who from your school went to Boy's State last year. If there were any, they will be seniors (you go at end of Junior Year)
Step four - Indicate your interest through your guidance counselor and/or your local American Legion post.
That's what im doing, thanks. To be completely honest im not sure im eligible, i dont have much leadership experience. Im trying to build on it but im not sure what i can do in my area, it's a small town and small school.
If you're in your junior year and male, you are eligible. I've interviewed lots of boys for Boy's State and quite a few had not had significant leadership roles up to then. Small Town and High School should HELP you here as there should be less competition.
 
Im not sure i know what you mean by boys state though.
Step one - Google "Your State" Boy's State
Step two - go to the Boy's State site for your state
Step three - Speak to your guidance counselor about who from your school went to Boy's State last year. If there were any, they will be seniors (you go at end of Junior Year)
Step four - Indicate your interest through your guidance counselor and/or your local American Legion post.
That's what im doing, thanks. To be completely honest im not sure im eligible, i dont have much leadership experience. Im trying to build on it but im not sure what i can do in my area, it's a small town and small school.
If you're in your junior year and male, you are eligible. I've interviewed lots of boys for Boy's State and quite a few had not had significant leadership roles up to then. Small Town and High School should HELP you here as there should be less competition.
Thats what i was thinking. Just talked to the superintendent about all of this. Habe me some suggestions. Thanks.
 
Did you already get an appointment to West Point?

I just looked up the OP's past posts. It appears that he is still only a junior in High School.

From my perspective, it is a bit too soon to be talking "boots" here.

https://www.serviceacademyforums.com/index.php?threads/what-should-i-do-grades.65171/
Based on the above linked post, it would be far more productive for the OP to focus on improving his chemistry and pre-calculus grade than to be on this board discussing R-Day.

Just my opinion.
I know, just thinking ahead. Im currently getting my grades up.
Clearly you are very excited about the prospect of joining West Point and I am excited for you. Don't let up on that mission as your end goal. Right now is time to hunker down academically, physically and mentally because it is a long haul and you can't get these days back once they are gone. Listen to the advice of these seasoned parents and admins and take ACTION to get yourself ready to submit the best file you possibly can. If you don't have a basketball, get one and practice your CFA, be like Forrest Gump and run everywhere, find opportunities in your community and school to be a leader, apply to attend Boys State this summer (super important for WCS points) and finally...work extra hard on improving GPA if needed. Good Luck!
Thank you so much. Will do. My GPA is definately not where i know it should be but I'm working on it. As far as athletics and fitness go, I've been going hard at the gym for almost 3 monthes now. Leadership improvement is another value I need to work on. Im not sure i know what you mean by boys state though.
Boys State is another leadership opportunity that is hosted by the American Legion in every state. You can only attend during the summer after your junior year but you should be submitting your application as soon as you can. Here is a link for eligibility and processes in each state https://www.legion.org/boysnation/websites. Attending this one week leadership opportunity ranks well with WP in your candidate score and you will learn much about how the government works. Hope this helps you on your journey!
Thank you so much.
 
Open comment to all hopefuls... don't memorize anything prior to r day if you are fortunate enough to secure admissions.

There is a method to the madness and a reason.

Part of the memorization exercises one will be required to undergo during r day and beyond is to help prepare your mind for acting under stress and pressure.

Not knowing general knowledge will not be near as detrimental as knowing answers to questions day one... you will stick out like a sore thumb and will most likely gain the immediate attention of the firstie nearest you. Don't be that plebe!

There will be ample time to learn what you need to learn. Please don't start memorizing anything from bugle notes...

Instead focus on what you can control and enjoy your time with family and friends.

Just my two cents.

This is very sound advice..........Don't be New Cadet Know it All............once you become that New Cadet (not plebe, as you won't be a plebe at Beast), you will probably not shake it for the remainder of Beast. DD told us of a couple of NC's who made Beast a lot harder than they needed to. They teach you what you need to know, when you need to know it, and as is noted above, there is a method and madness to it. Great advice to the prospective 2023's who are waiting by their mailbox right now!
Thanks.
 
Great catch Goat on new cadet versus plebe! Lol.... they will understand the difference on R Day and A Day!

Better catch on "New Cadet versus Cadet".................get a piece of mail addressed to "Cadet Smith" prior to A-Day.............not a good move!!
 
I was wondering if anyone could give me tips on what i should bring to or memorize for r-day at westpoint. I know about the soldiers creed you have to memorize and recite in order to get through r-day, but besides that, is there anything else i should know?
Just show up and go with the flow. DS had the bugle notes memorized and was dogged about it in beast. They accused him of thinking he was better there everyone else. He also maxed out the PT test and scored 340 but in beast they specifically did not count 40 of his push ups. They said he was not going low enough and he was bouncing his chest on the ground. It is all part of the game. Just enjoy it and be happy you made it. DS says it is everything he dreamed it would be.
 
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