USNA Class of 2023 Do-It-Yourself Appointment Thread

Last year there were 130 USNA appointments listed for the class of 2022 on SAF. I realize there is nothing scientific about any of this but if the class of 2023 is at 69 reported appointments does that mean we are at the top of the bell curve?
 
Overwhelmed said:
Last year there were 130 USNA appointments listed for the class of 2022 on SAF. I realize there is nothing scientific about any of this but if the class of 2023 is at 69 reported appointments does that mean we are at the top of the bell curve?
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We don’t know the actual total numbers offered appointments this year vs. last.
 
Looking at the 2023 appointment threads for USMA, USNA, USMMA, USAFA, and the nomination forum thread, as of today (Feb 7), there are 14 states with zero reported appointments or nominations in any of these categories. This represents 65 MOCs for which there are no reported appointments or nominations on any sub-forum. The largest state not reporting (Minnesota) has 10 MOCs. There are certainly MANY more congressional districts without reports on this forum. So, just from that standpoint, there is not a representative sampling on this forum.

Additionally, 51% (35 of 69) reported USNA appointments, to date, on this forum received LOAs. IF USNA issues 200 LOAs for total appointments offered (a guess), that means that about 200 of 1350 offers (15% of total offers). Admittedly, the LOAs would report offers first. But it also suggests that those receiving LOAs are disproportionally represented as participants on this forum. There could be many reasons for this.

This is a long-winded way of saying that while the reporting of appointments on this forum is both informative and interesting, it is my opinion that those lurking or participating should not be too concerned about estimating how many appointments have been issued thus far from what has been reported herein.
 
What he said. I think [emoji848]

It could also mean there will be a big-ish wave coming soon!

Or not....
 
@ders_dad Thanks for crunching the numbers.
Do you believe the USNA yield rate on SAF is also skewed? It seems like very few candidates decline.
 
This is just reading of the tea leaves of course, by a parent (me) who obviously doesn't have anything better to do, but...

If you look at the USNA Appointment Threads here on SAF over the past few years, you can see that there is a pattern starting in late January and continuing through April where there is a spike of appointments on every Wednesday, with most of them coming in the months of February and March.

I realize that this forum is not a representative sample. I totally agree with ders_dad, that..."while the reporting of appointments on this forum is both informative and interesting, it is my opinion that those lurking or participating should not be too concerned about estimating how many appointments have been issued thus far from what has been reported herein."
 
paul8502 said:
If you look at the USNA Appointment Threads here on SAF over the past few years, you can see that there is a pattern starting in late January and continuing through April where there is a spike of appointments on every Wednesday, with most of them coming in the months of February and March.
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ders_dad said:
This is a long-winded way of saying that while the reporting of appointments on this forum is both informative and interesting, it is my opinion that those lurking or participating should not be too concerned about estimating how many appointments have been issued thus far from what has been reported herein.
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I will be a bit more direct....this is interesting to see - but you will go crazy trying to use the information as a predictor of any type. Of course most Appointments come in February and March --applications close at the end of January, and USNA tries to let everyone know by April 15. Even a Bull Major like me can do that Math ! As for Wednesday...I wouldn't sit by the mailbox, or glued to the computer looking for a status change. I would expect that Noms & Appointments releases their determinations as soon as approved, then they give MOC a chance to give notice, etc, and then they post the changes. Other than being middle of the week, Wednesday isn't significant.
 
Overwhelmed said:
@ders_dad Thanks for crunching the numbers.
Do you believe the USNA yield rate on SAF is also skewed? It seems like very few candidates decline.
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Regarding people declining, I am unsure if USNA offers more appointments than spots, but based on this:
https://www.usna.edu/Admissions/_files/documents/ClassPortrait.pdf
It would seem that a very significant few decline appointment offers for various reasons I'm sure. There were 1,373 appointments offered and 1,209 showed up for I-day is what I'm taking from this.
 
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Overwhelmed said:
@ders_dad Thanks for crunching the numbers.
Do you believe the USNA yield rate on SAF is also skewed? It seems like very few candidates decline.
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I have no idea (except the USNA yield IS high). All I know for sure (based on a recent discussion) is that my DS would definitely add to that yield number, given the chance!

I think folks participating in SAF are highly motivated and prepared. I think information they gather here can help make a candidate's application better. I think there is a real possibility that folks who are on this forum and are candidates (or parents of candidates) may have a higher appointment rate than the "general population". Of course, that is not to say that one has a better chance of appointment by participating in SAF (particularly after the application is complete).
 
Having fun scrolling through my pictures today. RE: yield, here are the stats for ‘22IMG_0623.JPG Pretty impressive imo!
 
justdoit19 said:
Having fun scrolling through my pictures today. RE: yield, here are the stats for ‘22View attachment 1979 Pretty impressive imo!
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When my DS was at NASS this past summer, during the parent briefing after check in, the admissions rep told the group that 20,000 started the application but only 3300 completed it (which we presumed to mean had a "complete/under review" or equivalent in the portal). I wonder how accurate the 16k applications received statistic is, or what it truly represents.
 
There are typically 16,000 or more applications opened every year. Of those, typically only 3,000 to 3,500 get to the point in which they are complete, triple-qualified (3Q), and with a Nomination associated.
Of those 3,000 - 3,500, about 1,350 - 1,400 receive Offers of Appointment. Around 88% of those offers are accepted, yielding around 1,200 new Plebes on I-Day.
 
And I believe the Superintendent said that the 88% acceptance rate was one of the highest for USNA. Must not be THE highest they have ever had or that would be stated (similar to the act/sat highlight).
 
justdoit19 said:
And I believe the Superintendent said that the 88% acceptance rate was one of the highest for USNA. Must not be THE highest they have ever had or that would be stated (similar to the act/sat highlight).
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The United States Naval Academy in Maryland had the highest yield among National Liberal Arts Colleges, schools that emphasize undergraduate education and award at least half of their degrees in the liberal arts. At 87.4 percent, the Naval Academy tops all ranked National Universities and National Liberal Arts Colleges that submitted data to U.S. News. The school's yield is up slightly from the 86.9 percent reported in fall 2016. Like other top colleges, the Naval Academy had a low acceptance rate: 8 percent.

Comparison - Harvard University in Massachusetts boasted a yield of 82.8 percent, the highest of any National University.

I suspect the cost plays a huge factor. Plus ... the desire of the candidates to serve their country
 
Just got an unsolicited email addressed to me from New Mexico Military Institute Admissions with the subject line, "Welcome".
My USNA status is till CPR. I have already been granted a NROTC Scholarship to a University in California (but haven't been admitted).
Does this mean I've been assigned to NAPS or is a "try again next year" notice coming?
Anyone else get this email today?
 
Good morning all, just a quick question that I was wondering if someone knew the answer to or could point me in the direction of the correct thread that might provide insight. I am a college reapplicant (got TWE on final day to hear back last year) and I am triple qualified with a Congressional and NROTC nomination. I was wondering: 1) when assessing which applicant(s) to take from a Congressional district how do they measure college reapplicants vs high school directs? 2) My BGO informed me that college reapplicants most likely will not hear back until mid-March(ish) as they like to do high school directs first, yet I saw that some reapplicants have already heard back so I was wondering whether that is true or if they look at reapplicants and directs at the same time? 3) As the Navy factors in major (Tier 1/2/3) for the NROTC Scholarships, does USNA do the same? Thank you.
 
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