NROTC Marine Option Chances

@Flaps: can you help me understand what you have been told relative to the DEP if you don't get a scholarship? You will be required to go to Boot Camp - how are you going to time it such that you can go to college in the fall? What has your recruiter or OSO told you?

Also, the path to a flight MOS is a long and difficult one. There are plenty of "fallen angels" in the fleet serving in combat arms roles. While you can dream of becoming an Aviator, you need to be committed to leading Marines in whatever MOS you end up with.
I have email confirmation regarding the DEP which confirms that multiple Marines by name say that I can voluntarily leave the DEP program at any time. I only joined it to show my dedication, which is there but I do not want to be enlisted.

As for aviation, yes I can imagine that the road is long and winding, but I don’t see how a guaranteed flight contract can be bent out of context, as long as I pass flight school with no medical hitches it seems almost too straight forward.
 
You sound like quite a strong candidate - where are you thinking of taking this scholarship?
I have not decided yet, I have been accepted to 3 of my 4 colleges: Embry Riddle Aeronautical University, The University Of South Carolina, and The Citadel Military College of South Carolina.

that last one I can give two thumbs way up!
I have only heard good things about this college! I’m honored to have been accepted, currently I’d say it’s my number one.

obviously a man of distinction and discernment beyond your years ... all kidding aside there are many good paths that all lead where you want to go
Thank you, that means a lot and yes the Citadel is truly special.
 
The key point I want to make, and USMCGrunt alluded to, you have to want to be a Marine Officer first. My son's flight contract was a bonus opportunity, so he took it. By all means, have goals. Also have backups. One of my friends in college was a flight contract -- and got tired of waiting -- and served as an artillery officer.
I fully understand what you are saying sir, and yes I hear what both of you are saying. But this is a goal of mine that has been mine since I can remember, now obviously that means nothing to the people who choose who goes into a hundred million dollar jet, but I’ll do whatever it takes or in the case of your artillery friend, I’ll wait however long I’m told if it means I get to at least go to flight school. All I can do is try, if I try and fail then fair enough, but I’m going to try everything I possibly can. Thank you for the advice sir.
 
Hello, I am an applicant for the 2019 NROTC scholarship and I was wondering if some insight could be given into my chances of receiving it; keep in mind this is for the Marine Option so the stats are different. I’ve been confused on what to believe about the accepted statistics, looking at the official Marine numbers I seem qualified, but looking at some people’s stats on here I feel outclassed to say the least. Anyways, here are my stats:

1. 3.5 unweighted GPA (9-12 cumulative)

2. All AP classes senior year, 4.3 GPA junior year, 4.4 GPA my senior year

3. 1320 SAT (average accepted according to Marines is around 1220)

4. Varsity letters in two sports, particated for all four years non-stop (Track and Cross Country)

5. Captain of both teams 2 years in a row (4 consecutive seasons of captaincy)

6. Entered into the DEP program

7. Roughly 200 hours of community service (local food bank, assisting mobility challenged veterans at appreciation events, restoring vintage aircraft at local air museum as part of school STEM field)

8. 92/99 on the ASVAB (I don’t know how much this plays in but I’ve read from the official Marine Corps stats that the average for accepted is 88)

9. I have two separate Congressional nominations to the Naval Academy which I have been told is equivalent to a recommendation by them. One from a member of the Senate and one from the House. I included this in my package.

10. A 272 on the PFT, again, the official Marine stats place this score above average (from the stats given directly to me by a Marine the average accepted for the west coast is around 267). I did 13 pull ups, 108/105 sit-ups, and an 18:14 run time for 3 miles.

11. Multiple accolades regarding my athletics and academics, specifically scholar athlete awards given by my league for a perfect GPA my junior year and a near perfect GPA my senior year (a dip due to the AP workload, still above 4.0) while participating in varsity sports. Earned “beat first year runner” as a freshman.

12. Junior year track team won league championship while I was the captain. Senior year cross country team went undefeated in league and won the championship.

Am I literally wasting my time even trying for this scholarship? If the official stats are to be trusted the only weak point I have is my GPA (average accepted according to the Marines is a 3.6 unweighted). Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
It may not make any difference but my DS is nearly identical to you except a few numbers a 'bit' better - nothing major. His PFT scores are 1st class with his second being in the 280's. The one piece that does stand out is my DS's MC Officers noted is he would have to take the ASVAB. They were pretty compelling that he had to have a 94+ or he'd be under their desired tier. He scored a 95/99. They asked him multiple times since last July if he is interested in Aviation and he has conveyed each time that he's only interested in Ground and desires to become a Combat Engineer or potentially a Recon Officer - Needs of the Corps come first, so be mindful. They were positioning DEP prior to the ASVAB and once he took it they dropped the conversation entirely. With his ASVAB they spoke about being 'Tier - 1' and that is pretty much what you need to be to compete for the MO ROTC - again, that is what they said. The Major and the Captain are both USNA grads, combat decorated and have visible scars of war and medals showcasing it. A very close friend, nationally recognized athlete, went into the ROTC MO program and they dropped him immediately due to his ASVAB score. There are several other friends of his that have either (a) been dropped or (b) have gone the AD enlisted route or reserve route. Suffice it to say, his friend is an outstanding Rugby player and was awarded an athletic scholarship to the top collegiate D1 Rugby program in the US. My point is, as noted by others, there is no hard line on who receives an award and who doesn't. You have to want to be a Marine and you have to earn the position and title of Marine. Things change, people change, school, relationships, family challenges, etc. His Officers have almost been like second parents since last July. They pretty much weeded out a bunch of kids my DS knows. I believe he is the last one standing per him that started this process. Also, my DS, even though he is a Varsity Captain, etc. in Football and Lacrosse and works out every day at 0545 before school attends the Poolie workouts each week in the mid afternoon. I think that type of devotion, motivation and mindset will hopefully pan out. Ultimately, he has several plan b's and if needed he'll execute on them. He has been accepted to every school on the MO 'School of Intent' as well which the Officers were glad to hear. He is also focused that if he cannot get a scholarship and doesn't get a college/campus scholarship he will attempt PLC and/or OCS afterwards. If none of that works out he has already made a decision (at this point - life changes) to enlist or go reserves with the Marines and see how it pans out. Good luck and I hope all of your plans fall into place. There are a lot of awesome roles - MOS's - in the MC so don't *only* limit yourself to Aviation. Cyber is a huge need and is pretty awesome MOS too.
 
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Hello, I am an applicant for the 2019 NROTC scholarship and I was wondering if some insight could be given into my chances of receiving it; keep in mind this is for the Marine Option so the stats are different. I’ve been confused on what to believe about the accepted statistics, looking at the official Marine numbers I seem qualified, but looking at some people’s stats on here I feel outclassed to say the least. Anyways, here are my stats:

1. 3.5 unweighted GPA (9-12 cumulative)

2. All AP classes senior year, 4.3 GPA junior year, 4.4 GPA my senior year

3. 1320 SAT (average accepted according to Marines is around 1220)

4. Varsity letters in two sports, particated for all four years non-stop (Track and Cross Country)

5. Captain of both teams 2 years in a row (4 consecutive seasons of captaincy)

6. Entered into the DEP program

7. Roughly 200 hours of community service (local food bank, assisting mobility challenged veterans at appreciation events, restoring vintage aircraft at local air museum as part of school STEM field)

8. 92/99 on the ASVAB (I don’t know how much this plays in but I’ve read from the official Marine Corps stats that the average for accepted is 88)

9. I have two separate Congressional nominations to the Naval Academy which I have been told is equivalent to a recommendation by them. One from a member of the Senate and one from the House. I included this in my package.

10. A 272 on the PFT, again, the official Marine stats place this score above average (from the stats given directly to me by a Marine the average accepted for the west coast is around 267). I did 13 pull ups, 108/105 sit-ups, and an 18:14 run time for 3 miles.

11. Multiple accolades regarding my athletics and academics, specifically scholar athlete awards given by my league for a perfect GPA my junior year and a near perfect GPA my senior year (a dip due to the AP workload, still above 4.0) while participating in varsity sports. Earned “beat first year runner” as a freshman.

12. Junior year track team won league championship while I was the captain. Senior year cross country team went undefeated in league and won the championship.

Am I literally wasting my time even trying for this scholarship? If the official stats are to be trusted the only weak point I have is my GPA (average accepted according to the Marines is a 3.6 unweighted). Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
It may not make any difference but my DS is nearly identical to you except a few numbers a 'bit' better - nothing major. His PFT scores are 1st class with his second being in the 280's. The one piece that does stand out is my DS's MC Officers noted is he would have to take the ASVAB. They were pretty compelling that he had to have a 94+ or he'd be under their desired tier. He scored a 95/99. They asked him multiple times since last July if he is interested in Aviation and he has conveyed each time that he's only interested in Ground and desires to become a Combat Engineer or potentially a Recon Officer - Needs of the Corps come first, so be mindful. They were positioning DEP prior to the ASVAB and once he took it they dropped the conversation entirely. With his ASVAB they spoke about being 'Tier - 1' and that is pretty much what you need to be to compete for the MO ROTC - again, that is what they said. The Major and the Captain are both USNA grads, combat decorated and have visible scars of war and medals showcasing it. A very close friend, nationally recognized athlete, went into the ROTC MO program and they dropped him immediately due to his ASVAB score. There are several other friends of his that have either (a) been dropped or (b) have gone the AD enlisted route or reserve route. Suffice it to say, his friend is an outstanding Rugby player and was awarded an athletic scholarship to the top collegiate D1 Rugby program in the US. My point is, as noted by others, there is no hard line on who receives an award and who doesn't. You have to want to be a Marine and you have to earn the position and title of Marine. Things change, people change, school, relationships, family challenges, etc. His Officers have almost been like second parents since last July. They pretty much weeded out a bunch of kids my DS knows. I believe he is the last one standing per him that started this process. Also, my DS, even though he is a Varsity Captain, etc. in Football and Lacrosse and works out every day at 0545 before school attends the Poolie workouts each week in the mid afternoon. I think that type of devotion, motivation and mindset will hopefully pan out. Ultimately, he has several plan b's and if needed he'll execute on them. He has been accepted to every school on the MO 'School of Intent' as well which the Officers were glad to hear. He is also focused that if he cannot get a scholarship and doesn't get a college/campus scholarship he will attempt PLC and/or OCS afterwards. If none of that works out he has already made a decision (at this point - life changes) to enlist or go reserves with the Marines and see how it pans out. Good luck and I hope all of your plans fall into place. There are a lot of awesome roles - MOS's - in the MC so don't *only* limit yourself to Aviation. Cyber is a huge need and is pretty awesome MOS too.
Thank you very much for this information, greatly appreciate it and I will take it to heart. I do attend all my poker workouts/ functions and I know aviation is not a guarantee. I just hope I can get a contract for flight school, if not though I would still be honored to serve as an officer, that much is not a problem. I’m mainly worried about my GPA, other than GPA I seem “above average.”
 
Hello, I am an applicant for the 2019 NROTC scholarship and I was wondering if some insight could be given into my chances of receiving it; keep in mind this is for the Marine Option so the stats are different. I’ve been confused on what to believe about the accepted statistics, looking at the official Marine numbers I seem qualified, but looking at some people’s stats on here I feel outclassed to say the least. Anyways, here are my stats:

1. 3.5 unweighted GPA (9-12 cumulative)

2. All AP classes senior year, 4.3 GPA junior year, 4.4 GPA my senior year

3. 1320 SAT (average accepted according to Marines is around 1220)

4. Varsity letters in two sports, particated for all four years non-stop (Track and Cross Country)

5. Captain of both teams 2 years in a row (4 consecutive seasons of captaincy)

6. Entered into the DEP program

7. Roughly 200 hours of community service (local food bank, assisting mobility challenged veterans at appreciation events, restoring vintage aircraft at local air museum as part of school STEM field)

8. 92/99 on the ASVAB (I don’t know how much this plays in but I’ve read from the official Marine Corps stats that the average for accepted is 88)

9. I have two separate Congressional nominations to the Naval Academy which I have been told is equivalent to a recommendation by them. One from a member of the Senate and one from the House. I included this in my package.

10. A 272 on the PFT, again, the official Marine stats place this score above average (from the stats given directly to me by a Marine the average accepted for the west coast is around 267). I did 13 pull ups, 108/105 sit-ups, and an 18:14 run time for 3 miles.

11. Multiple accolades regarding my athletics and academics, specifically scholar athlete awards given by my league for a perfect GPA my junior year and a near perfect GPA my senior year (a dip due to the AP workload, still above 4.0) while participating in varsity sports. Earned “beat first year runner” as a freshman.

12. Junior year track team won league championship while I was the captain. Senior year cross country team went undefeated in league and won the championship.

Am I literally wasting my time even trying for this scholarship? If the official stats are to be trusted the only weak point I have is my GPA (average accepted according to the Marines is a 3.6 unweighted). Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
It may not make any difference but my DS is nearly identical to you except a few numbers a 'bit' better - nothing major. His PFT scores are 1st class with his second being in the 280's. The one piece that does stand out is my DS's MC Officers noted is he would have to take the ASVAB. They were pretty compelling that he had to have a 94+ or he'd be under their desired tier. He scored a 95/99. They asked him multiple times since last July if he is interested in Aviation and he has conveyed each time that he's only interested in Ground and desires to become a Combat Engineer or potentially a Recon Officer - Needs of the Corps come first, so be mindful. They were positioning DEP prior to the ASVAB and once he took it they dropped the conversation entirely. With his ASVAB they spoke about being 'Tier - 1' and that is pretty much what you need to be to compete for the MO ROTC - again, that is what they said. The Major and the Captain are both USNA grads, combat decorated and have visible scars of war and medals showcasing it. A very close friend, nationally recognized athlete, went into the ROTC MO program and they dropped him immediately due to his ASVAB score. There are several other friends of his that have either (a) been dropped or (b) have gone the AD enlisted route or reserve route. Suffice it to say, his friend is an outstanding Rugby player and was awarded an athletic scholarship to the top collegiate D1 Rugby program in the US. My point is, as noted by others, there is no hard line on who receives an award and who doesn't. You have to want to be a Marine and you have to earn the position and title of Marine. Things change, people change, school, relationships, family challenges, etc. His Officers have almost been like second parents since last July. They pretty much weeded out a bunch of kids my DS knows. I believe he is the last one standing per him that started this process. Also, my DS, even though he is a Varsity Captain, etc. in Football and Lacrosse and works out every day at 0545 before school attends the Poolie workouts each week in the mid afternoon. I think that type of devotion, motivation and mindset will hopefully pan out. Ultimately, he has several plan b's and if needed he'll execute on them. He has been accepted to every school on the MO 'School of Intent' as well which the Officers were glad to hear. He is also focused that if he cannot get a scholarship and doesn't get a college/campus scholarship he will attempt PLC and/or OCS afterwards. If none of that works out he has already made a decision (at this point - life changes) to enlist or go reserves with the Marines and see how it pans out. Good luck and I hope all of your plans fall into place. There are a lot of awesome roles - MOS's - in the MC so don't *only* limit yourself to Aviation. Cyber is a huge need and is pretty awesome MOS too.
*poolee
 
@Flaps: can you help me understand what you have been told relative to the DEP if you don't get a scholarship? You will be required to go to Boot Camp - how are you going to time it such that you can go to college in the fall? What has your recruiter or OSO told you?

Also, the path to a flight MOS is a long and difficult one. There are plenty of "fallen angels" in the fleet serving in combat arms roles. While you can dream of becoming an Aviator, you need to be committed to leading Marines in whatever MOS you end up with.
I have email confirmation regarding the DEP which confirms that multiple Marines by name say that I can voluntarily leave the DEP program at any time. I only joined it to show my dedication, which is there but I do not want to be enlisted.

As for aviation, yes I can imagine that the road is long and winding, but I don’t see how a guaranteed flight contract can be bent out of context, as long as I pass flight school with no medical hitches it seems almost too straight forward.
You're playing a dangerous game here. First of all, claiming that you joined to show your dedication in the same breath as saying you'll just drop out of your commitment that you never intended to go through with anyways shows nothing but a lack of dedication to anybody observing from the outside. Second of all, it is true that until the day you get to a recruit depot you can back out, but I would have to imagine backing out of said contract is pretty much going to blacklist you from talking to any recruiters/OSO in the future. That's just speculation, but I would say it's a distinct possibility.

In the future, don't make commitments you have no intention of keeping. That's dishonorable and manipulative.
 
Not sure you understand the ‘guaranteed flight contract.’ Have you researched the ASTB exam and scores required? Even if you pass a flight physical you can get to PCola and be checked by a doc again and be dropped. It happens. You can get dropped from flight school too. So, yes, guaranteed means the chance to attend flight school if you pass the ASTB. Doesn’t mean anything beyond the chance. Not sure on current wash out rates. If you don’t want to do anything besides fly in the USMC, then don’t become a Marine.
 
@Flaps: can you help me understand what you have been told relative to the DEP if you don't get a scholarship? You will be required to go to Boot Camp - how are you going to time it such that you can go to college in the fall? What has your recruiter or OSO told you?

Also, the path to a flight MOS is a long and difficult one. There are plenty of "fallen angels" in the fleet serving in combat arms roles. While you can dream of becoming an Aviator, you need to be committed to leading Marines in whatever MOS you end up with.
I have email confirmation regarding the DEP which confirms that multiple Marines by name say that I can voluntarily leave the DEP program at any time. I only joined it to show my dedication, which is there but I do not want to be enlisted.

As for aviation, yes I can imagine that the road is long and winding, but I don’t see how a guaranteed flight contract can be bent out of context, as long as I pass flight school with no medical hitches it seems almost too straight forward.
You're playing a dangerous game here. First of all, claiming that you joined to show your dedication in the same breath as saying you'll just drop out of your commitment that you never intended to go through with anyways shows nothing but a lack of dedication to anybody observing from the outside. Second of all, it is true that until the day you get to a recruit depot you can back out, but I would have to imagine backing out of said contract is pretty much going to blacklist you from talking to any recruiters/OSO in the future. That's just speculation, but I would say it's a distinct possibility.

In the future, don't make commitments you have no intention of keeping. That's dishonorable and manipulative.
Thank you for this advice, I never intended to manipulate anyone, simply wanted to have the greatest chance of selection possible. After talking to my XO and the ranking Marine at my local recruiting station, they told me that it would be smart to check this box. I fully understand where you’re coming from and I see what you mean. I only did this because the Marines assured me it was nothing personal and they even admitted that they know I’m going to leave the program. I should have been more clear regarding it. In my situation it is known by the recruiters that I am going to be going to college, we discussed it extensively. Again, thank you for your feedback.
 
Not sure you understand the ‘guaranteed flight contract.’ Have you researched the ASTB exam and scores required? Even if you pass a flight physical you can get to PCola and be checked by a doc again and be dropped. It happens. You can get dropped from flight school too. So, yes, guaranteed means the chance to attend flight school if you pass the ASTB. Doesn’t mean anything beyond the chance. Not sure on current wash out rates. If you don’t want to do anything besides fly in the USMC, then don’t become a Marine.
Yep, thank you for your response and I apologize if I didn’t make it clear: flight school is simply my preference of what I want to do, being a Marine officer is my ultimate goal however. I am fully aware you can be dropped, which is why I said on this thread “if I am failed, fair enough, but I will do everything in my power to get there.” Something along those lines, thank you for the feedback and I fully understand the core values of honor, courage and in this case most notably: commitment. I personally don’t find it wrong to have a dream, while also simultaneously working towards the ultimate goal of being an officer. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
Nope, nothing wrong with a dream. We all have them and should have them. Marines are passionate... well about being Marines. Marine Pilots are the only Pilots in any service that will identify as a Marine first, pilot second. Also the only service that it’s clear... they are support for the Marine on the ground. They are a support element. If one doesn’t like the dirt and other elements of being a Marine... then going that route with the risk and so many steps to being a pilot is not a good one. A washed out Pilot who hates being a logistics officer or any other MOS is not a good one and the Marines deserve better than that. If you understand all that and are willing to be a Marine first and foremost... awesome. Good luck to you.
 
Nope, nothing wrong with a dream. We all have them and should have them. Marines are passionate... well about being Marines. Marine Pilots are the only Pilots in any service that will identify as a Marine first, pilot second. Also the only service that it’s clear... they are support for the Marine on the ground. They are a support element. If one doesn’t like the dirt and other elements of being a Marine... then going that route with the risk and so many steps to being a pilot is not a good one. A washed out Pilot who hates being a logistics officer or any other MOS is not a good one and the Marines deserve better than that. If you understand all that and are willing to be a Marine first and foremost... awesome. Good luck to you.
Thank you for the insight and yes, I have only been interested in being a Marine for a myriad of reasons. I apologize for not being clearer, aviation is simply my preferred track but the Marine Corps is certainly my true life goal.
 
Hey, I just stumbled across this thread. But I am also a current High School senior who is almost 100% sure that I'm going to The Citadel. Like you, I am planning to go through NROTC Marine Option to commission as a Marine Officer and plan to obtain flight contract as well. I hope you make the correct decision and go to The Citadel (haha ;)). If you do end up committing to The Citadel I will see you on Matriculation day!
 
Hey, I just stumbled across this thread. But I am also a current High School senior who is almost 100% sure that I'm going to The Citadel. Like you, I am planning to go through NROTC Marine Option to commission as a Marine Officer and plan to obtain flight contract as well. I hope you make the correct decision and go to The Citadel (haha ;)). If you do end up committing to The Citadel I will see you on Matriculation day!
Thanks for taking time to respond, it’s currently a big debate between the Citadel and Embry Riddle in Florida, leaning towards the Citadel for sure though!
 
I would just like to reply to this thread regarding ASTB scores for MOs.

To give some background, I'm a 3/C Marine option at Penn State applying for the spring board side-load. I have applied for the national scholarship twice and been rejected, along with the side-load boards last spring ad this past fall. For all prior boards, I applied as a ground contract, but have since switched to an air contract because applying air gives you a noticeably better shot at a scholarship. I have a 3.2 GPA and run a 275 PFT, which is borderline competitive for a ground spot but very competitive for air. The ASTB can help your chances a decent amount.

Since the Marine Corps is phasing out any position of a Naval Flight Officer with the sun setting on the F18s and the rise of the F35, the only ASTB scores that matter are the Academic (AQR) and Pilot (PFAR) sections. The minimum for Marine Corps Student Naval Aviator applicants is a 4 and a 6, respectively. It doesn't really matter if you get higher than the minimum, you just need the minimum as a MO. Navy options need as high as they can get because everyone is competing for service selection, but if you are applying for a Side-load scholarship as an air contract, all you need is a 4 and a 6.
 
I would just like to reply to this thread regarding ASTB scores for MOs.

To give some background, I'm a 3/C Marine option at Penn State applying for the spring board side-load. I have applied for the national scholarship twice and been rejected, along with the side-load boards last spring ad this past fall. For all prior boards, I applied as a ground contract, but have since switched to an air contract because applying air gives you a noticeably better shot at a scholarship. I have a 3.2 GPA and run a 275 PFT, which is borderline competitive for a ground spot but very competitive for air. The ASTB can help your chances a decent amount.

Since the Marine Corps is phasing out any position of a Naval Flight Officer with the sun setting on the F18s and the rise of the F35, the only ASTB scores that matter are the Academic (AQR) and Pilot (PFAR) sections. The minimum for Marine Corps Student Naval Aviator applicants is a 4 and a 6, respectively. It doesn't really matter if you get higher than the minimum, you just need the minimum as a MO. Navy options need as high as they can get because everyone is competing for service selection, but if you are applying for a Side-load scholarship as an air contract, all you need is a 4 and a 6.
Thank you for this information, that’s very helpful, so what you’re saying is that as long as I hit my marks on the ASTB the chance of a flight contract is relatively high?
 
Yes. Also contingent upon passing a flight physical to make it to PCola.
 
I would just like to reply to this thread regarding ASTB scores for MOs.

To give some background, I'm a 3/C Marine option at Penn State applying for the spring board side-load. I have applied for the national scholarship twice and been rejected, along with the side-load boards last spring ad this past fall. For all prior boards, I applied as a ground contract, but have since switched to an air contract because applying air gives you a noticeably better shot at a scholarship. I have a 3.2 GPA and run a 275 PFT, which is borderline competitive for a ground spot but very competitive for air. The ASTB can help your chances a decent amount.

Since the Marine Corps is phasing out any position of a Naval Flight Officer with the sun setting on the F18s and the rise of the F35, the only ASTB scores that matter are the Academic (AQR) and Pilot (PFAR) sections. The minimum for Marine Corps Student Naval Aviator applicants is a 4 and a 6, respectively. It doesn't really matter if you get higher than the minimum, you just need the minimum as a MO. Navy options need as high as they can get because everyone is competing for service selection, but if you are applying for a Side-load scholarship as an air contract, all you need is a 4 and a 6.
Thank you for this information, that’s very helpful, so what you’re saying is that as long as I hit my marks on the ASTB the chance of a flight contract is relatively high?
Yes, that is correct. A 4 and a 6 isn't that hard to hit. I just took one today and got a 5 and a 7 and I haven't done any math or physics/mechanics work since high school.

I also saw someone mention the flight physical, but that won't be an obstacle until after you complete OCS, so don't worry about that now.

Here's a helpful link for the spatial section of the test for whenever you decide to take it. This section is graded based off time and accuracy, so nailing this definitely helps.
 
I would just like to reply to this thread regarding ASTB scores for MOs.

To give some background, I'm a 3/C Marine option at Penn State applying for the spring board side-load. I have applied for the national scholarship twice and been rejected, along with the side-load boards last spring ad this past fall. For all prior boards, I applied as a ground contract, but have since switched to an air contract because applying air gives you a noticeably better shot at a scholarship. I have a 3.2 GPA and run a 275 PFT, which is borderline competitive for a ground spot but very competitive for air. The ASTB can help your chances a decent amount.

Since the Marine Corps is phasing out any position of a Naval Flight Officer with the sun setting on the F18s and the rise of the F35, the only ASTB scores that matter are the Academic (AQR) and Pilot (PFAR) sections. The minimum for Marine Corps Student Naval Aviator applicants is a 4 and a 6, respectively. It doesn't really matter if you get higher than the minimum, you just need the minimum as a MO. Navy options need as high as they can get because everyone is competing for service selection, but if you are applying for a Side-load scholarship as an air contract, all you need is a 4 and a 6.
Thank you for this information, that’s very helpful, so what you’re saying is that as long as I hit my marks on the ASTB the chance of a flight contract is relatively high?
Yes, that is correct. A 4 and a 6 isn't that hard to hit. I just took one today and got a 5 and a 7 and I haven't done any math or physics/mechanics work since high school.

I also saw someone mention the flight physical, but that won't be an obstacle until after you complete OCS, so don't worry about that now.

Here's a helpful link for the spatial section of the test for whenever you decide to take it. This section is graded based off time and accuracy, so nailing this definitely helps.
Thank you very much for this, any help I can get is appreciated, I’ll take a look at this video. Again, I greatly appreciate the time taken to help me out. I’ll continue working towards it.
 
I would just like to reply to this thread regarding ASTB scores for MOs.

To give some background, I'm a 3/C Marine option at Penn State applying for the spring board side-load. I have applied for the national scholarship twice and been rejected, along with the side-load boards last spring ad this past fall. For all prior boards, I applied as a ground contract, but have since switched to an air contract because applying air gives you a noticeably better shot at a scholarship. I have a 3.2 GPA and run a 275 PFT, which is borderline competitive for a ground spot but very competitive for air. The ASTB can help your chances a decent amount.

Since the Marine Corps is phasing out any position of a Naval Flight Officer with the sun setting on the F18s and the rise of the F35, the only ASTB scores that matter are the Academic (AQR) and Pilot (PFAR) sections. The minimum for Marine Corps Student Naval Aviator applicants is a 4 and a 6, respectively. It doesn't really matter if you get higher than the minimum, you just need the minimum as a MO. Navy options need as high as they can get because everyone is competing for service selection, but if you are applying for a Side-load scholarship as an air contract, all you need is a 4 and a 6.
Thank you for this information, that’s very helpful, so what you’re saying is that as long as I hit my marks on the ASTB the chance of a flight contract is relatively high?
Yes, that is correct. A 4 and a 6 isn't that hard to hit. I just took one today and got a 5 and a 7 and I haven't done any math or physics/mechanics work since high school.

I also saw someone mention the flight physical, but that won't be an obstacle until after you complete OCS, so don't worry about that now.

Here's a helpful link for the spatial section of the test for whenever you decide to take it. This section is graded based off time and accuracy, so nailing this definitely helps.
Also I was wondering: when should I contact my OSO regarding a contract? Thank you.
 
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