Hidden Camera discovered on USS Arlington

I am guilty of glossing over the original point as well. This is a serious culture issue.

The comments by the CO and XO are tantamount to saying that this is a "boys will be boys" attitude. When will this crap just STOP?

The fact that this "Fratboy' attitude is so pervasive from O-10 down to E-1 is what infuriates me the most.

It is truly sad that I am actually relieved that my daughters are not in service. :(
 
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The culture has changed enormously, and people generally do the right thing, but there are always those few...
 
Perhaps this the the wrong thread to ask this question.

Capt MJ has infinitely more Navy experience than I do. If she says these kinds of issues and the culture surround them are improving, then I am inclined to believe her. Yet, it is clearly still an issue. What ability does a young JO have to address such an issue or confront/question an “idiot” CO who refuses to acknowledge the seriousness of the matter?
 
I have no doubt he took it seriously, but likely for different reasons, and he did not have the emotional IQ to understand the impact on her. There is no shortage of tone-deaf bosses in or out of the uniformed workplace.

You figure out which battles to fight and which to walk away from, and live to fight another day. Much changes with rank, power and influence.
 
Ok, much as I usually get a kick out of the quirky diversions here into salty head humor, the original post documented something that is pretty darn invasive and infuriating. Why would anyone do that, knowingly invade and possibly exploit privacy by sharing it, to their shipmates?

All these steps forward, and trust and feeling part of a team can be shattered in an instant. I put up with a lot of crap way back when, and here we are in the 21st century, and it’s still going on. Much, much, much, much less, I grant you. And it’s usually just a few boneheads. And the right things usually happen now.

Just a few years ago, a USNA sponsor daughter called, shaken and upset. This happened to her on her afloat unit (I’m being deliberately vague). Her sailors, that she worked hard to support, who she thought worked together as a mutually trust-worthy team, who had won praise from the CO and XO, who she enjoyed being around, and treated with respect and appreciation - some of her sailors had rigged a remote feed in the shower. Her images were shared. Most of them knew about it, even if not active participants. It was discovered when one of her sailors went to another unit, felt guilty, and went to the NCIS. She continued to work in the same unit while the investigation was active. Her XO noted “well, it’s not like you were sexually assaulted.” Her CO said “Just forget about it and put it behind you.” Some of her peers kidded her about being a “movie star.”

She was heart-broken by both the event, the aftermath, and some people’s reactions. She called us before she called her parents, nearly speechless with grief and rage, because she knew we had heard just about everything over the years. It broke my heart to hear her, and some of the same feelings flooded back to me from stuff during my career. I had to hand the phone to DH, who handled it with his usual calm and compassion. She continued to serve with distinction, achieving many firsts in her field, but has left the Navy. Too deep a scar.

There has to be a zero tolerance policy. If you are involved - you are kicked out.

It saddens me this **** happens.
 
The "Boys will be boys" attitude and the "just let it go" advice makes me sick as does the old fall back of "Well the CO's are from a different generation" so they look at these issues differently. I'm from a generation that pre dates these CO's and somehow I was able to make it to the age I am now without doing anything that comes close to what these sailors did. When I was in the service there were far fewer women serving then there are now and yet I was somehow able to get through with out degrading the women that did serve.

I always felt for the women that I knew had had some issues but were too afraid to come forward, I think having two younger sisters had a lot to do with it. When I had just made the transition from enlisted to a new Ensign I was working on getting one of the new Ice Breakers stocked for a run north. I came across a Chief that let's say did not seem to understand the meaning of the word "NO" when it was coming from a brand new E-2 female. I got a lot of very startled looks from the crew as they saw me dragging a very angry Chief by the back of his collar through the passageway to the Captains Quarters. Got the same advice to let it go....I didn't and cost me a lot of grief for a while, in the end he was simply allowed to retire. That stuck with me for a while and lets just say I was not popular among the Chiefs, although being 6'-5" 220lbs and not afraid to stand toe to toe with any of them did improve their manners around the women when I was anywhere near.

I get tired of hearing about this crap and then reading comments from some of these neanderthals that this is why women should not be in the military. I agree, zero tolerance for this type of action.

EDIT: Just a side note, I meant no disrespect to Chiefs at large, they were the best mentors I had. It just so happens this one guy was a Chief.
 
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