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mcfamilyof4 said:
If that were true then no LOA candidate should even bother to apply to their MOC for a nom since the academy will “find them one anyway”. I find it reasonable that an LOA with no nom can just reapply next year and try to get a nom in the next go round.
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But the nom application process starts before the LOAs are likely given.

IIRC OP got noms for three SAs but not USNA. USNA gave the LOA. I bet she is highly qualified - and the Navy would try to get her in as the exception, and not the rule.
 
The process is not a perfect system and appears to operate more like a “shell game” with continuously moving pieces... I have to agree with mcfamilyof4.
 
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USNA2023Candidate said:
The process is not a perfect system and appears to operate more like a “shell game” with continuously moving pieces... I have to agree with mcfamilyof4.
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Honestly, you really have no idea if the process is a "perfect system" or not. You have no real ability to judge how competitive a candidate is or isn't.

The academy isn't just looking for candidates with amazing SATs and GPAs, it is looking for candidates who will go on to become successful naval officers. There is a difference, and you looking at it from the perspective of a candidate have no frame to judge it by.
 
Nemo567 said:
The academy isn't just looking for candidates with amazing SATs and GPAs, it is looking for candidates who will go on to become successful naval officers. There is a difference, and you looking at it from the perspective of a candidate have no frame to judge it by.
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So true... 1600 SATs doesn’t mean someone can lead. It’s the whole candidate, while trying to measure that on a 17-18 year old is not an easy task. It’s why the BGO interview and evals exist and why those scores aren’t published. Soft skills go a long way in leadership, find a perfect system to measure that you will be rich. There are so many amazing candidates, not all get in, how the system works. My class at USNA... valedictorian, washes out of BUDS, 5 and dive, a buddy who served on the same ship as them said he was a despised officer by all. Our anchor man had command and still serves today.
 
I will tell you from experience that my DS was sweating bullets after doing his three MOC interviews.
Getting a nomination was the only condition of his LOA, and he was never led to believe that it would be easy to get that nomination.
 
NavyHoops said:
Nemo567 said:
The academy isn't just looking for candidates with amazing SATs and GPAs, it is looking for candidates who will go on to become successful naval officers. There is a difference, and you looking at it from the perspective of a candidate have no frame to judge it by.
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So true... 1600 SATs doesn’t mean someone can lead. It’s the whole candidate, while trying to measure that on a 17-18 year old is not an easy task. It’s why the BGO interview and evals exist and why those scores aren’t published. Soft skills go a long way in leadership, find a perfect system to measure that you will be rich. There are so many amazing candidates, not all get in, how the system works. My class at USNA... valedictorian, washes out of BUDS, 5 and dive, a buddy who served on the same ship as them said he was a despised officer by all. Our anchor man had command and still serves today.
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What’s the valedictorian doing today?

My father is a retired professor. He told me that the average high school kid does better than the valedictorian ... some study he referenced. My father and I laugh - neither of us were valedictorian. My father and son like to say intelligence skips a generation.
 
One correction. Anchor man is retired and runs a massive company he founded. Forgot that part. Actually founded it whole on active duty. Valedictorian... not sure to be honest. Not many liked him and do not know anyone who kept in touch with him.
 
I respectfully agree to disagree with a few commenters on this thread. I will conclude with my observation as a military dependent of a career naval officer... I understand that decisions will always be made throughout your naval career based on the needs of the Navy and in this case, appointments made based on the needs of the USNA.
 
USNA2023Candidate said:
I respectfully agree to disagree with a few commenters on this thread. I will conclude with my observation as a military dependent of a career naval officer... I understand that decisions will always be made throughout your naval career based on the needs of the Navy and in this case, appointments made based on the needs of the USNA.
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Do you think the OP got an LOA based on her WCS or some other factor?
 
My brother received an LOA as a Blue Chip Recruited Athlete... could be a similar scenario. LOAs do not guarantee a nomination, and I wish her the best...
 
I don’t think she is a recruited athlete. I think she has a great WCS and earned an LOA based on the same criteria everyone else was judged on.
 
I sincerely believe if she received an LOA on academics and WCS alone... she would have already received a nomination.
 
USNA2023Candidate said:
I sincerely believe if she received an LOA on academics and WCS alone... she would have already received a nomination.
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Here is what she wrote:

I got nominated by my congressman for USAFA, USMA, and USMMA, but not USNA. I did not receive a nomination from either senator (no senatorial interview, too many applicants). I then received my LOA in November, and my Congressman had made nominations in October because he was leaving office.

You don’t know if she is in a competitive district, if she didn’t receive a nom to USNA by mistake of the MOC.

She secured an early LOA from USNA before noms are due. And she received noms to the other three SAs.

I have interacted with her in several threads ... she comes across to me as bright, respectful, and nice.

I suspect the USNA wants her for a reason. And I hope they find a nom for her.
 
Keep thinking it then 2023... noms have so many factors. LOAs also have so many factors. None of us know the 100% truth or story. Doesn’t really matter what you or anyone of us think, they got an LOA. USNA wants them. They don’t need to justify their self to us or you. They didn’t get a nom to USNA for whatever reason, but did to others. None of us know the whole story. They could very possibly be your classmate. The minute you get in line for I day no one gives a dang about your awards, SATs, LOA, JROTC space shuttle door gunner badges, rich/poor or who your parents are. Your a class, your shipmates for life.
 
You’re absolutely correct... the USNA will give her a nomination when other candidates received their nominations from their official nominating sources. With all due respect... MOCs should spread the opportunities for more SA candidates and request 2 top SA choices when competing for a nomination. This is a great example of a candidate with 3 nominations, and not a single one to the SA she wanted to attend. Thank you for your insight and good luck to the remaining candidates.
 
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SAparent2023 said:
An old Harvard Law School saying was that "All the A students were professors, the B students were judges, and the C students made all the money". It takes more than test scores and grades to be successful in life. Good luck to all!
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It hurts at the bottom …. got a loose a lot to make a lot.
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