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This is the name of the non-scholarship program in NROTC, I think. Do they require Tier 1 or Tier 2 majors for this? Or, can a pre-law, or criminal science major do NROTC via the "College Program" and get a commission?
 
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I am pretty sure you can pursue any major but the Navy prefers “technical majors” which will increase your chances of receiving a scholarship.
 
You can have any major but at some point you'll need to either win a scholarship or advanced standing slot and most of those will go to STEM (Tier 1 and Tier 2) majors. If you're not set on Navy, per se, then the Marine Option doesn't care at all what your major is. DS was a History major and a Marine Option College Programmer. He won a scholarship in his sophomore year. A lot of his buddies were Criminal Justice majors and also on scholarship as Marine Options.
 
kinnem said:
You can have any major but at some point you'll need to either win a scholarship or advanced standing slot and most of those will go to STEM (Tier 1 and Tier 2) majors.
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It's as straight forward as this.
 
Yes, it is true that 85% of NROTC slots go to Tier 1 or Tier 2 majors -- which tends to describe most applicants.
The flip side of that is that 15% of slots are wholly reserved for Tier 3 majors.
 
learningNavymom said:
Yes, it is true that 85% of NROTC slots go to Tier 1 or Tier 2 majors -- which tends to describe most applicants.
The flip side of that is that 15% of slots are wholly reserved for Tier 3 majors.
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But I think you need to be a really bright shining star to get one of these few slots in the 'squishy' majors or a least back in the old days it was so - competition for them was quite fierce
 
BlueBulldog said:
But I think you need to be a really bright shining star to get one of these few slots in the 'squishy' majors or a least back in the old days it was so - competition for them was quite fierce
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Are we talking about the same thing? I am talking about a commisiion via a non-scholarship ROTC slot.
 
HB2019 said:
I am pretty sure you can pursue any major but the Navy prefers “technical majors” which will increase your chances of receiving a scholarship.
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I am not talking about a scholarship. I am asking about a pay your own tuition NJROTC slot
 
GaitherDad said:
HB2019 said:
I am pretty sure you can pursue any major but the Navy prefers “technical majors” which will increase your chances of receiving a scholarship.
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I am not talking about a scholarship. I am asking about a pay your own tuition NJROTC slot
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true but it seemed to me even the Advanced Standing had limited availability for non-tech majors - at least it was so back in the day and seems so through #2 son who's mid/3 right now - I think the answer is the might be able to

Good luck to 'em
 
+1 to BlueBulldog. I wasn't referring to just the scholarship either. Between sophomore and junior year one must apply for advanced standing if not already on scholarship. These applications go before a national board and are evaluated. No doubt they consider major. Some years as many as half of the applicants are not allowed to continue in the college program, for various reasons. One must be awarded advanced standing to continue in the program and commission. Each service has some form of cut between sophomore and junior year. AFROTC it's SFT, AROTC it's whatever they call summer camp now. For Navy, it's being awarded advanced standing.

EDIT: Every year there are Navy Option midshipmen applying to transfer to the Marine Option because they aren't cutting it in their STEM major and still want to serve. Some are approved while on scholarhsip and get to keep that scholarship. Some are approved while on scholarship and lose that scholarship. Some just want advanced standing in some service because they don't see themselves getting it as Navy Options. Many become Criminal Justice majors.

I also know of kids each year who switch to AROTC. Their major is often the reason, although there are sometimes other reasons.

Your DS may not have any issues with getting a scholarship or advanced standing with a Tier 3 major, and I would hope that's the case, but one needs to go in with their eyes open.
 
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kinnem said:
+1 to BlueBulldog. I wasn't referring to just the scholarship either. Between sophomore and junior year one must apply for advanced standing if not already on scholarship. These applications go before a national board and are evaluated. No doubt they consider major. Some years as many as half of the applicants are not allowed to continue in the college program, for various reasons. One must be awarded advanced standing to continue in the program and commission. Each service has some form of cut between sophomore and junior year. AFROTC it's SFT, AROTC it's whatever they call summer camp now. For Navy, it's being awarded advanced standing.

EDIT: Every year there are Navy Option midshipmen applying to transfer to the Marine Option because they aren't cutting it in their STEM major and still want to serve. Some are approved while on scholarhsip and get to keep that scholarship. Some are approved while on scholarship and lose that scholarship. Some just want advanced standing in some service because they don't see themselves getting it as Navy Options. Many become Criminal Justice majors.

I also know of kids each year who switch to AROTC. Their major is often the reason, although there are sometimes other reasons.

Your DS may not have any issues with getting a scholarship or advanced standing with a Tier 3 major, and I would hope that's the case, but one needs to go in with their eyes open.
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Great info. !!! Thanks for providing it!!!
 
GaitherDad said:
I am not talking about a scholarship. I am asking about a pay your own tuition NJROTC slot
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Your son will have the opportunity to reapply for a 4-year scholarship or apply for a 3-year scholarship. He will get more opportunities in the summer as a scholarship recipient, but again he doesn’t have to have one. He will have to achieve advanced standing or provisional advanced standing in order to commission. Good luck to your DS on his path to commission.
 
My unit had 2 MIDN pick up advanced standing this year as a political science major. It’s very possible, they were possibly the middle of the pack in terms of GPA and PT.
 
BlueBulldog said:
FastFood44 said:
My unit had 2 MIDN pick up advanced standing this year as a political science major. It’s very possible, they were possibly the middle of the pack in terms of GPA and PT.
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that's great news
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From what I have seen, they are significantly, significantly more willing to give Tier 3 advanced standings as compared to tier 3 scholarships. The thinking is, if you are a good MIDN and truly want to commission with a Tier 3 degree, you will be putting in the work in the unit (doing well in your Nav Sci classes, being involved in the unit). The Navy and your CO will see this effort you’re putting in. They are more willing to give out advanced standing to these people because from their end they see a motivated MIDN who they are only spending a few thousand on, versus the more competitive scholarship options where they have to be much more selective because they are spending hundreds of thousands on you.
 
Some numbers from 2018 Sideload / Advanced Standing board:

15 of 75 selects for 3-year scholarship were Tier 3
13 of 88 selects for 2-year scholarship were Tier 3
52 of 118 selects for Advanced Standing were Tier 3
24 of 39 selects for Provisional Advanced Standing were Tier 3.
 
Go Dores! said:
Some numbers from 2018 Sideload / Advanced Standing board:

15 of 75 selects for 3-year scholarship were Tier 3
13 of 88 selects for 2-year scholarship were Tier 3
52 of 118 selects for Advanced Standing were Tier 3
24 of 39 selects for Provisional Advanced Standing were Tier 3.
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the interesting thing would be what was the total number of tier 3 applicants
 
Go Dores! said:
Some numbers from 2018 Sideload / Advanced Standing board:

15 of 75 selects for 3-year scholarship were Tier 3
13 of 88 selects for 2-year scholarship were Tier 3
52 of 118 selects for Advanced Standing were Tier 3
24 of 39 selects for Provisional Advanced Standing were Tier 3.
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That would seem to back up FastFood's statement.
What the hell is Provisional Advanced Standing? Never heard of that. And please don't say it's provisional! :D
 
kinnem said:
Go Dores! said:
Some numbers from 2018 Sideload / Advanced Standing board:

15 of 75 selects for 3-year scholarship were Tier 3
13 of 88 selects for 2-year scholarship were Tier 3
52 of 118 selects for Advanced Standing were Tier 3
24 of 39 selects for Provisional Advanced Standing were Tier 3.
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That would seem to back up FastFood's statement.
What the hell is Provisional Advanced Standing? Never heard of that. And please don't say it's provisional! :D
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depends on the definition of is ... wait that was something else
 
So the flow is....compete for 3-yr sideload (after freshman year), if unsuccessful compete for 2-year sideload (after sophomore), if unsuccessful but have recommendation from Unit CO for Provisional Advanced Standing you'll remain in program for junior year, then compete for 1-year sideload (after junior), if unsuccessful compete for Advanced Standing to complete last year in program and earn commission.

BlueBulldog - data I have access to doesn't provide total number of Tier 3 applicants. Yes, it would be a more complete picture with those numbers.

Edit: To be more clear, you can pick up a 2-year or advanced standing after the sophomore year. If not selected for either, the provisional advanced standing comes into play, allowing continuation into the junior year.
 
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